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September 14, 2013, 10:31 AM | #1 |
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Self Defense forces increasing in Rural Mexico
... Or at least international news coverage of said forces.
I started seeing coverage about a year and a half ago concerning some of the Mormon groups in Northern Mexico with strong ties to the US. Then there was some coverage of a group near Cancun blocking all outsiders from entering their town(including government forces). Now it seems there is a female "vigilante" group emerging. This new group is right outside of Acapulco. Interestingly, most of the non-Mormon groups seem to be centered in Southern Mexico. Most of the reported violence is in the North, but it is well known that cartels rule the South to an even greater degree than the North. Many farmers are forced to grow marijuana by the cartels in a sort of tax scheme. The poorer Southern areas are corruption saturated with cartels and local governments often containing so much overlap as to be indistinguishable from each other. That is similar in the North, but in the South there is even less federal authority to provide a limited control on the cartels. The natural right to self defense against despotic government being exercised en mass right across the border. Last edited by johnwilliamson062; September 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM. |
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I read a piece last week about self-defense militias springing up to battle the drug cartels. LINKY HERE to the piece in the Washington Post.
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September 14, 2013, 03:04 PM | #3 |
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Self Defense forces increasing in Rural Mexico
“We are coming together with only one thing in mind: Kill or be killed,” said the doctor, JoséManuel Mireles, 55, who described what is happening as an armed social movement and estimated that thousands of citizen-fighters are pursuing the gangsters into the hills. “The only training we have is the courage we have inside.”
What is interesting is these are not trained firearm experts, ex-cops or former military. These are doctors, office workers, farmers, etc that used .22LR and bolt actions and shotguns to hunt down cartel members. Now they are capturing and using silver plated AK47. Sometimes here in the states guys say that unless you train several weeks a year with tier 1 weapons you don't stand a chance to defend yourself. I agree that mire training and better weapons increase your odds of survival. But, we shouldn't lose sight that people pushed to the wall can overcome frightening odds. This is an inspiring example happening down there in Mexico. |
September 14, 2013, 03:29 PM | #4 |
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SOF units?...
Id heard of a few spec ops & DEA/SF task forces working in Mexico but they were shut down after the Fast & Furious mess.
It would be good if the citizens could stand up to the cartels & narco-terrorists but there's so much $$$ involved its a huge up-hill battle. Illegal drugs create a "shadow economy" in central & Latin America. $$$ is a big part of it. |
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The important thing in this, for me at least, is some of the defense groups aren't just battling the cartels. They are kicking out government forces also and overtly setting up sovereign governments. Michoacana is supposed to be empty at this point. Almost no one younger than 45 in the state. Predictions of economic collapse due to lack of work force are discussed among those I know who were originally from the area. As I always have to mention when I read about the deaths figures for the war on the cartels. I know several people who disappeared or were found murdered in Mexico. NONE of them are listed in the official tally of deaths. Everyone I know who has spent time in Mexico recently says the same thing. 60,000 is probably not 1/4 the real number. I often find myself wondering if arming and training regular women/mothers in some of the conflict regions of Africa might slow things down there. Last edited by johnwilliamson062; September 14, 2013 at 04:06 PM. |
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September 14, 2013, 04:13 PM | #6 |
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Paging Yul Brynner and Steve McQueen. Mr. Brynner or Mr. McQueen to the red emergency hotline phone, please.
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September 14, 2013, 05:09 PM | #7 |
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I can see why they would kick out government forces due to the rampant corruption in them. I wish them well and they will need it as they are seriously outgunned by the druggies.
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September 14, 2013, 05:38 PM | #8 |
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Aguila,
If you only knew. Common enough that it is well known the American can not carry the firearms as it is so illegal for a foreigner to be found in possession. A VIP, American, and ?squire? is not an uncommon sight in many parts of Mexico. |
September 15, 2013, 01:21 PM | #9 |
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We are wandering away from the appropriate topics for this forum.
Thus, closed.
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