Groups at 100 yds

Nathan · May 20, 2015, 10:32 AM

I was shooting my XD45 5" at 100 yds at a 10" gong, I'll bet I hit it 4 of 6 times. I was just resting my arm on a bench.

If I put it on paper, what kind of groups should I expect.

MrBorland · May 20, 2015, 10:48 AM

You mean if the 100 yard gong were replaced with a piece of paper? Logic tells me roughly 15".

James K · May 20, 2015, 10:55 AM

I don't think you can really talk about groups with a conventional handgun at 100 yards. I have seen some very skilled handgunners keep shots within about 3 inches off a rest. But that shooting was done with very accurate revolvers; not many auto pistols will do that. Of course, I would expect guns like a TC with a scope to equal or better that shooting, that is why I said "conventional" handgun.

As a sort of answer, you hit a 10" gong 4 out of 6 shots, so your group must be over 10 inches. For that gun, a 10-12 inch group at 100 yards would be pretty good shooting.

Jim

Nathan · May 21, 2015, 07:23 PM

Yea, logically, I would agree minute of paper!!

I might try for fun!

Honestly, I thought I would miss every time!

RAfiringline · May 21, 2015, 07:51 PM

>Yea, logically, I would agree minute of paper!!
I might try for fun!
Honestly, I thought I would miss every time!<

Get a big sheet of paper, put a 10" bull on it, 10 rnds?, and post a pic.

Fun with guns.

BoogieMan · May 21, 2015, 08:37 PM

I tried my 22/45 with a bsa red dot at 100yds for the fun of it. Shot from a bench with a rolled shirt under my wrists. I was surprised that I kept all 10rnd on the target with about a 6" group of 8, 2 flyers.
With my 460xvr scoped with a 2-8 leupold I can keep 5 rounds in a 3" ring pretty consistantly Using 300gr hand loads. The 200gr Hornady factory ammo is a bit more accurate at around 2.5".
I would think your xd would be able to group with fine irons or a red dot within about 6".

Sgt127 · May 21, 2015, 09:48 PM

I used to regularly shoot my Wilson .45 at 100 yards. I could keep roughly 7 or 8 out of ten somewhere in the torso of a Milpark target. That was standing, no support. Just two hands.

I need to do that again.

WVMountaineer · May 21, 2015, 10:05 PM

I can shoot about 5-6 inches with my open sighted 44 mag revolver when rested. I have never tried it but, I imagine I'd have no problems with a 3 foot group with one of my semi's.

God Bless

Skeets · May 23, 2015, 06:33 AM

I've been looking for a fun,different type,of shooting game.Thanks to you guys,I've found it! Don't know the guns or calibers to be used yet,but will have the peace and time of our farm range.Might report if not a total disaster.

SpareMag · May 25, 2015, 07:59 PM

Hickok45 routinely hits his gong (size unkown) at 80yards and tries everything he shoots on the gong. His vids of his 230 yard gong hits are other-worldly. I can't even see the target...

All that is way beyond my skillset....

Congrats on your successes!

gglass · May 26, 2015, 10:06 AM

I don't do it much anymore, but here is a video of one of my better 100-yard attempts. This is with the GSG1911-22 and a Custom SA 1911 for good measure.

I can only say that if you don't practice extreme accuracy all the time, the skill will degrade fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJE87Gd86M

skizzums · May 26, 2015, 10:23 AM

Even Hodgdon's and Bowler on test handguns, from a ransom rest, at 50 yards. Although some are as small as 1/2 groups at 50, I doubt it would maintain much MOA at 100. I think you very may well be able to get 6-8" groups. Let us know

dakota1911 · May 26, 2015, 02:05 PM

I play with it. If you get into it then I would suggest 10mm and maybe 38 Super over 45ACP. Ol Hickock 45 routinely wacks his 80 yard gong with all sorts of hand guns. Then he has his 230 yard shoots which are fun to watch.

dave421 · May 26, 2015, 07:08 PM

My friends and I shoot a 18" gong at 100 yards a couple times a year. The hardest part is figuring out where to aim since you're covering the target. Once you find something to reference, most any Glock/XD/Smith/Sig/etc. will have no problem with repeated hits. I'd imagine most of them would be 10-15" groups at 100 yards based on our experience.

OkieCruffler · May 28, 2015, 01:11 AM

You may be surprised. I shoot at an 8" swinger at 100 yrds with several of my iron sighted pistols and can hit more often than I miss. But when I sit down to shoot groups on paper for some reason my groups open up more than I figure they should. That goes the same for my specialty pistols with their high power scopes. I can ring a 1" swinger all day but shooting MOA groups takes more mental focus for some reason.

May 20, 2015, 10:32 AM	#1
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	Groups at 100 yds I was shooting my XD45 5" at 100 yds at a 10" gong, I'll bet I hit it 4 of 6 times. I was just resting my arm on a bench. If I put it on paper, what kind of groups should I expect.

May 21, 2015, 08:37 PM	#6
BoogieMan Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2012 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,217	I tried my 22/45 with a bsa red dot at 100yds for the fun of it. Shot from a bench with a rolled shirt under my wrists. I was surprised that I kept all 10rnd on the target with about a 6" group of 8, 2 flyers. With my 460xvr scoped with a 2-8 leupold I can keep 5 rounds in a 3" ring pretty consistantly Using 300gr hand loads. The 200gr Hornady factory ammo is a bit more accurate at around 2.5". I would think your xd would be able to group with fine irons or a red dot within about 6". __________________ Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown

May 23, 2015, 06:33 AM	#9
Skeets Member in memoriam Join Date: April 6, 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 583	Move Over Elmer! I've been looking for a fun,different type,of shooting game.Thanks to you guys,I've found it! Don't know the guns or calibers to be used yet,but will have the peace and time of our farm range.Might report if not a total disaster. __________________ Skeets "Over Kill Never Fails"

May 26, 2015, 10:06 AM	#11
gglass Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 638	I don't do it much anymore, but here is a video of one of my better 100-yard attempts. This is with the GSG1911-22 and a Custom SA 1911 for good measure. I can only say that if you don't practice extreme accuracy all the time, the skill will degrade fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJE87Gd86M __________________ "...shall not be infringed." (Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Some restrictions may apply. Not available in all states).

May 26, 2015, 10:23 AM	#12
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	Even Hodgdon's and Bowler on test handguns, from a ransom rest, at 50 yards. Although some are as small as 1/2 groups at 50, I doubt it would maintain much MOA at 100. I think you very may well be able to get 6-8" groups. Let us know __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

May 20, 2015, 10:48 AM	#2
MrBorland Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2007 Location: NC Posts: 2,614	You mean if the 100 yard gong were replaced with a piece of paper? Logic tells me roughly 15".

May 20, 2015, 10:55 AM	#3
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I don't think you can really talk about groups with a conventional handgun at 100 yards. I have seen some very skilled handgunners keep shots within about 3 inches off a rest. But that shooting was done with very accurate revolvers; not many auto pistols will do that. Of course, I would expect guns like a TC with a scope to equal or better that shooting, that is why I said "conventional" handgun. As a sort of answer, you hit a 10" gong 4 out of 6 shots, so your group must be over 10 inches. For that gun, a 10-12 inch group at 100 yards would be pretty good shooting. Jim

May 21, 2015, 07:23 PM	#4
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	Yea, logically, I would agree minute of paper!! I might try for fun! Honestly, I thought I would miss every time!

May 21, 2015, 07:51 PM	#5
RAfiringline Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2014 Location: western US Posts: 290	>Yea, logically, I would agree minute of paper!! I might try for fun! Honestly, I thought I would miss every time!< Get a big sheet of paper, put a 10" bull on it, 10 rnds?, and post a pic. Fun with guns.

May 21, 2015, 09:48 PM	#7
Sgt127 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Posts: 1,053	I used to regularly shoot my Wilson .45 at 100 yards. I could keep roughly 7 or 8 out of ten somewhere in the torso of a Milpark target. That was standing, no support. Just two hands. I need to do that again.

May 21, 2015, 10:05 PM	#8
WVMountaineer Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2015 Posts: 330	I can shoot about 5-6 inches with my open sighted 44 mag revolver when rested. I have never tried it but, I imagine I'd have no problems with a 3 foot group with one of my semi's. God Bless

May 25, 2015, 07:59 PM	#10
SpareMag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2012 Posts: 514	Hickok45 routinely hits his gong (size unkown) at 80yards and tries everything he shoots on the gong. His vids of his 230 yard gong hits are other-worldly. I can't even see the target... All that is way beyond my skillset.... Congrats on your successes!

May 26, 2015, 02:05 PM	#13
dakota1911 Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2007 Location: The Great American Desert Posts: 501	I play with it. If you get into it then I would suggest 10mm and maybe 38 Super over 45ACP. Ol Hickock 45 routinely wacks his 80 yard gong with all sorts of hand guns. Then he has his 230 yard shoots which are fun to watch.

May 26, 2015, 07:08 PM	#14
dave421 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2006 Posts: 510	My friends and I shoot a 18" gong at 100 yards a couple times a year. The hardest part is figuring out where to aim since you're covering the target. Once you find something to reference, most any Glock/XD/Smith/Sig/etc. will have no problem with repeated hits. I'd imagine most of them would be 10-15" groups at 100 yards based on our experience.

May 28, 2015, 01:11 AM	#15
OkieCruffler Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: Denison Texas on the banks of Texhoma Posts: 1,556	You may be surprised. I shoot at an 8" swinger at 100 yrds with several of my iron sighted pistols and can hit more often than I miss. But when I sit down to shoot groups on paper for some reason my groups open up more than I figure they should. That goes the same for my specialty pistols with their high power scopes. I can ring a 1" swinger all day but shooting MOA groups takes more mental focus for some reason. __________________ John A. Monroe, Never Forgive, Never Forget, Blood Pays Blood