Say It Ain't So

FiringDragon · January 24, 2006, 09:29 AM

Does anyone happen to know if, in fact, silhouettes are not allowed in NY State for target shooting?

I remember reading something about another state, but was not aware of NY... what's the logic in that rule anyway?

Thanks.

Chris Phelps · January 24, 2006, 09:44 AM

http://www.huntingnavigator.com/SRNY1.htm

That is a list of shooting ranges in NY. a good portion of them list rifle and pistol Silhouette. I would say that it, in fact, is not true.

SBrocker8 · January 24, 2006, 10:08 AM

I've heard of that as well, but I have no clue which state it was in. The logic is that sillhouettes get people used to the idea of shooting black people? Something along those lines. Personally, any resistance I can get to hesitating to shoot a person, I'll take. I'd HATE to hesitate when my butt's on the line and wind up getting killed because of it.

Wyo Cowboy · January 24, 2006, 12:30 PM

Next will be the "Martians For A More Peaceful Solar System" group complaining that the Green sillhouette targets are racist!

hIPSHOT33 · January 24, 2006, 04:51 PM

It sounds like a California thing . God help us .

Capt. Charlie · January 25, 2006, 01:03 AM

Alas, some years ago, we were forced to stop using the NRA B-26 (I think?) silhouettes and go to a white target with a black line silhouette only, after a minority group raised Caine. Have to be PC, ya know.

Mikeyboy · January 25, 2006, 11:15 AM

There is an outdoor range I go to once in a while in PA that does not allow "Targets in any Human form". Make no sense to me. The pistol range I go to has several human sillouettes plus two that are photos of actual people, One is a hostage holder with a white woman, being held by a white guy, the other is a white guy looking nasty holding I think a knife. As a white male, I would not be offened if a black, asian, or whatever shooter used the white guy target for pratice. If somehow NY liberals want to make shooting just a sport and ignoring the fact that guns are also used to shoot people, they are being silly. There is also a Glow in the dark skeleton target at my range, but I hear that due to complaints from glowing skeleton and liberals groups who feel glowing skeletons should be allowed in our society, they are no longer used.

FiringDragon · January 25, 2006, 12:07 PM

Thanks everyone for your responses. I am still not clear on what the status is in NY legally speaking.

All I know is that a number of catalogs/mail order places (including The Sportsman's Guide) will not ship them to a NY address, and none of the stores aroung here carry them...

It is silly, no matter what the justification is (PC or otherwise).

mete · January 25, 2006, 12:30 PM

The original Bianchi matches had a silhouette target but when the NRA took it over they changed to a different target since they didn't want to be accused of 'playing at shooting people " !!!

sirlonewolf · January 25, 2006, 12:49 PM

Well I too have been to those ranges where they do not allow targets in any human form. Most of those are either city or county run facilities. So you can almost understand the logic behind the city council's decision there. I too was a bit perturbed when they got away from the black and white targets. But here in Florida we use the NRA B-21 which is white paper with a blue silhouette. Which is fine with me because inmates here where blue uniforms. I am still good to go.

Capt. Charlie · January 25, 2006, 01:28 PM

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....here in Florida we use the NRA B-21 which is white paper with a blue silhouette. Which is fine with me because inmates here where blue uniforms. I am still good to go.

Do those targets show the silhouette hung up in razor wire

?

FiringDragon · January 25, 2006, 02:09 PM

"Which is fine with me because inmates here where blue uniforms. I am still good to go."

I thought that was funny as hell

JohnLizCas · January 25, 2006, 02:50 PM

At my club we are only allowed to use the white bottle shaped silhouettes for targets, Man, are those white bottle shaped guys going to be upset when they find out. LOL John

RioShooter · January 25, 2006, 05:04 PM

The qualification target for a CHL IS a silouette; 50 rounds in the COM gets you a score of 250 (175 to pass).

shield20 · January 25, 2006, 05:29 PM

No problem ever using, buying, etc. silhouettes in NY. Several ranges & stores offer the B-27. In fact, NY Corrections, certified armored car drivers, armed security etc. use it for qualification, as did our PD and Academy.

rkba_net · January 26, 2006, 04:55 AM

Massachusetts law says that state-licensed gun clubs "shall not permit shooting at targets that depict human figures, human effigies, human silhouettes or any human images thereof, except by public safety personnel performing in line with their official duties."

utaherrn · January 26, 2006, 06:04 AM

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Massachusetts law says that state-licensed gun clubs "shall not permit shooting at targets that depict human figures, human effigies, human silhouettes or any human images thereof, except by public safety personnel performing in line with their official duties."

Sometimes I think politicians are dumber than a bag of hammers.

Acegoesbang · January 26, 2006, 07:42 AM

lol why paractice shooting a man size target when you can kill varmints lol :-) if you can hit a ground hod rock chuck prarie dod fox or coyote why would ya need to know if ya could hit a man size target????????????

January 24, 2006, 09:29 AM	#1
FiringDragon Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 8	Say It Ain't So Does anyone happen to know if, in fact, silhouettes are not allowed in NY State for target shooting? I remember reading something about another state, but was not aware of NY... what's the logic in that rule anyway? Thanks.

January 24, 2006, 09:44 AM	#2
Chris Phelps Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Location: South China, Maine Posts: 814	http://www.huntingnavigator.com/SRNY1.htm That is a list of shooting ranges in NY. a good portion of them list rifle and pistol Silhouette. I would say that it, in fact, is not true. __________________ Bushmaster Superlight AR-15 5.56mm / Custom 24" Heavy BBL Varmint AR-15 5.56mm / Ruger M77 .257 Roberts / Ruger MKI 22LR Pistol / EAA Witness 9mm Pistol / Daisy 2202 22LR / Remington Viper 522 22LR / Stevens 200 .223 / Savage 10FP 24" .308 / Mauser 98 Sporter 30-06

January 25, 2006, 01:03 AM	#6
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	Alas, some years ago, we were forced to stop using the NRA B-26 (I think?) silhouettes and go to a white target with a black line silhouette only, after a minority group raised Caine. Have to be PC, ya know. __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

January 25, 2006, 02:50 PM	#13
JohnLizCas Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 162	silhouette targets At my club we are only allowed to use the white bottle shaped silhouettes for targets, Man, are those white bottle shaped guys going to be upset when they find out. LOL John

January 25, 2006, 05:04 PM	#14
RioShooter Member Join Date: October 29, 2005 Location: Brownsville, Texas Posts: 46	Texas Target The qualification target for a CHL IS a silouette; 50 rounds in the COM gets you a score of 250 (175 to pass). __________________ "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them". John Wayne - "The Shootist"

January 24, 2006, 10:08 AM	#3
SBrocker8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2005 Posts: 111	I've heard of that as well, but I have no clue which state it was in. The logic is that sillhouettes get people used to the idea of shooting black people? Something along those lines. Personally, any resistance I can get to hesitating to shoot a person, I'll take. I'd HATE to hesitate when my butt's on the line and wind up getting killed because of it.

January 24, 2006, 12:30 PM	#4
Wyo Cowboy Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2005 Location: Northern Wyoming Posts: 343	Next will be the "Martians For A More Peaceful Solar System" group complaining that the Green sillhouette targets are racist!

January 24, 2006, 04:51 PM	#5
hIPSHOT33 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2005 Location: ETNA CA. IN THE REAL NORTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 120	It sounds like a California thing . God help us .

January 25, 2006, 11:15 AM	#7
Mikeyboy Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Posts: 1,231	There is an outdoor range I go to once in a while in PA that does not allow "Targets in any Human form". Make no sense to me. The pistol range I go to has several human sillouettes plus two that are photos of actual people, One is a hostage holder with a white woman, being held by a white guy, the other is a white guy looking nasty holding I think a knife. As a white male, I would not be offened if a black, asian, or whatever shooter used the white guy target for pratice. If somehow NY liberals want to make shooting just a sport and ignoring the fact that guns are also used to shoot people, they are being silly. There is also a Glow in the dark skeleton target at my range, but I hear that due to complaints from glowing skeleton and liberals groups who feel glowing skeletons should be allowed in our society, they are no longer used.

January 25, 2006, 12:07 PM	#8
FiringDragon Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 8	Thanks everyone for your responses. I am still not clear on what the status is in NY legally speaking. All I know is that a number of catalogs/mail order places (including The Sportsman's Guide) will not ship them to a NY address, and none of the stores aroung here carry them... It is silly, no matter what the justification is (PC or otherwise).

January 25, 2006, 12:30 PM	#9
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	The original Bianchi matches had a silhouette target but when the NRA took it over they changed to a different target since they didn't want to be accused of 'playing at shooting people " !!!

January 25, 2006, 12:49 PM	#10
sirlonewolf Junior Member Join Date: January 18, 2006 Posts: 9	Well I too have been to those ranges where they do not allow targets in any human form. Most of those are either city or county run facilities. So you can almost understand the logic behind the city council's decision there. I too was a bit perturbed when they got away from the black and white targets. But here in Florida we use the NRA B-21 which is white paper with a blue silhouette. Which is fine with me because inmates here where blue uniforms. I am still good to go.

January 25, 2006, 02:09 PM	#12
FiringDragon Junior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 8	"Which is fine with me because inmates here where blue uniforms. I am still good to go." I thought that was funny as hell

January 25, 2006, 05:29 PM	#15
shield20 Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2005 Location: Hudson Valley, New York Posts: 1,371	No problem ever using, buying, etc. silhouettes in NY. Several ranges & stores offer the B-27. In fact, NY Corrections, certified armored car drivers, armed security etc. use it for qualification, as did our PD and Academy.

January 26, 2006, 04:55 AM	#16
rkba_net Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2000 Posts: 153	Massachusetts law says that state-licensed gun clubs "shall not permit shooting at targets that depict human figures, human effigies, human silhouettes or any human images thereof, except by public safety personnel performing in line with their official duties."

January 26, 2006, 07:42 AM	#18
Acegoesbang Junior member Join Date: August 5, 2005 Location: ky Posts: 169	lol why paractice shooting a man size target when you can kill varmints lol :-) if you can hit a ground hod rock chuck prarie dod fox or coyote why would ya need to know if ya could hit a man size target????????????