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August 14, 2014, 09:45 AM | #76 |
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Well considering she volunteered information about carrying to a cop, I don't think she intended to break any laws. But like I said, ignorance of the law is not protection from the law.
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August 14, 2014, 08:03 PM | #78 |
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Right, nothing in the NJ constitution or law allows the governor to interfere with the judicial branch of government operations for an accused before a conviction and once convicted, not for treason or impeachment.
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August 16, 2014, 11:04 AM | #79 |
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I'd say rather than the people of NJ actively wanting these types of laws, the people have become apathetic and simply pull the Democratic lever for other reasons. The politicians they vote for keep coming up with this garbage unfortunately, and simply "accept" it.
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According to a poll taken in January, 2014; 76 percent of NJ voters want stricter gun control. Gunowners are a small minority in NJ: Only about 16 percent of residents own guns. Quote:
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August 17, 2014, 01:44 PM | #81 |
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I think that she could have possibly forgotten about her permit was no good where she was going along with the bullets.And that was the farthest thing from her mind.I'm sure u have done things like that,I have done that myself.As far as the judge looks to me like he wants to make a martyr out of this woman.Well after reading what went down several times if I was on the jury I would be the one to hang it.Yes fine her for the bullets but not for the permit I believe her.I ask how many of you would carry black talons or any other illegals if you could get them ?
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They sure aren't illegal here in Texas. And there is no federal law against them.
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August 17, 2014, 11:51 PM | #84 | |
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A Google search said yes. Cnon |
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Black Talons essentially don't exist any more, unless you find an old box on a dusty shelf, because Winchester discontinued it years ago. Of course, today you can buy Winchester SXT (Same eXact Thing) ... but the bullets aren't black. |
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August 18, 2014, 04:54 PM | #86 |
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Unfortunately, this is a pretty good argument of why people should be required to get an education before carrying a gun. I am not saying it should be a law, I understand why that is a bad idea, but there are some out there with at least one generation of disconnect between their forefathers or mothers who taught safety, accuracy, law and common sense. It would seem wise to have an instructor when a mentor is not available.
I don't know her specific circumstances but someone with no knowledge is probably at more risk to do harm from their own hand than a strangers in the short term. Her ignorance of law is well documented but I wonder whether she ever even test fired her weapon as she had her permit all of one week. If not, I hope she got more than just an education in law throughout this ordeal.
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August 18, 2014, 10:19 PM | #88 |
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According to one story, she had her permit since April.
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August 21, 2014, 03:40 PM | #89 |
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There's quite a few folks on her side.
Enough at least to have donated nearly $50K for her defense fund. If there's anyone here who would like to join in, here's the web site to do so: http://gogetfunding.com/project/shan...l-defense-fund
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August 30, 2014, 03:15 AM | #90 |
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Pleased to see such a great response for financial assistance in regard to
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September 24, 2014, 07:43 PM | #91 |
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It appears that the Prosecutors have changed their minds and now are allowing her into the diversion program.
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...df4d9bb52.html |
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Great news for her and it also opens up the door to sanity in handling other similar cases.
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September 24, 2014, 09:27 PM | #93 |
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Judge denies motion to dismiss case against Philly mom arrested for legal gun in NJ
Why is New Jersey allowed to ignore 2nd Amendment rights? Why isn't New Jersey removed from getting any Federal funding since it chooses to ignore our Constitutional Amendments. I didn't know States were allowed to pick and chose which Amendments they follow or ignore! Whats next? Will they follow only parts of our Constitution they like? Mandatory prison time is an answer to lazy or inept politicians problems with dealing with issues. Its just easier than working for a living. Every law is made with a purpose or intent of doing some good or solving a problem. The result of this case has not met the intended purpose for the particular law. It seems its just too much trouble for the lawmakers or authorities to do the right and just thing! Justice has NOT been served.
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I'm familiar with similar programs in other states. PTI works like probation, which means she'll still be subject to fines, fees, drug tests, and she'll have to make regular commutes to report to a supervisor. Anyone familiar with New Jersey law: does this count as a conviction?
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Just FYI, all DAs will go for the throat at first. They place the harshest of all charges on the table and then they can if they choose to, negotiate down.
I think the prosecutor got what they wanted and the defendant got a lessor punishment. I'm not sure about NJ, but is could be like a plea in abaence. It only goes on her record if she doesn't stay clean for the specified period of time. Mel |
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From the linked article (referring to a male convicted under somewhat similar circumstances): Quote:
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September 25, 2014, 09:20 AM | #97 |
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So, now what happens to the $65K that was raised to help pay for her trial defense?
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I hope it's donated to a campaign to defeat the prosecutor.
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