Beretta 84 ?

[tsillik]

Is there a beretta 84 F and a FS version? If so what are the differences in them? Terry

[PSP]

Basically the same gun with the exception of a refinement in the safety of the fs, that eliminated the illusion, on the f, of being able to carry "cocked and locked", which cannot actually be done.

[tsillik]

When you say cocked and locked, does that mean hammer back and the safety on? Terry

[PSP]

Yes, but the 84f is not safe to use in this manner, and the reason the safety was quickly changed to the fs variant.

[aarondhgraham]

From this Wikipedia site.

Versions

There are potentially 5 versions for models 81 through 87. The features for each version in models 81, 82, 84 and 85 are consistent between models (i.e., the 81FS, 82FS, 84FS and 85FS all have similar features). This is not the case with models 83, 86, 87 and 89, which were not made in all versions.
[edit]Base versions (no letter suffix)

Base versions of models 81 through 87 are noted for having a rounded trigger guard and generally fewer safety features than subsequent versions. Safety is ambidextrous and frame-mounted. The frame is alloy, the slide is blued steel and the standard grips are wood.

[edit]B versions

The B versions of models 81, 82, 84, and 85 introduced an automatic firing pin safety, a shorter extractor and grooved front and back straps.

[edit]BB versions

The BB versions of models 81, 82, 84 and 85 have more serrations on the slide, white dot and post sights and other subtle changes.

[edit]F versions

The F versions of models 81, 82, 84 and 85 introduced the "combat" trigger guard with a squared-off front that allows for a finger hold, plastic grips, a proprietary "Bruniton" finish, a chrome-plated barrel and chamber, and replaced the safety with a decocker, which lowers the hammer when operated. As a result, these pistols cannot be "cocked and locked".

Edit: The F and FS models can be carried cocked and locked! Please research. The safety has three positions like the H&K P8. First position is fire, second is safe and if you push the saftey lever further up, the hammer decocks. While the safety is in safe mode, the trigger bar is disconnected from the hammer, making the gun inoperable when the trigger is pulled. It's safe to carry an F or FS Beretta 80 series in this condition because from the B series on they have an firing pin block/safety and the safety function wasn't changed with later models from the B series on. They just added the decock function.

[edit]FS versions

Current production models of .32 ACP and .380 ACP Cheetah pistols are in the FS configuration (e.g. 81FS).[3] In models 81, 82, 84 and 85 they include internal improvements over the F versions that are not visible during casual inspection.

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[labhound]

I have a model 85FS which is the slim grip version of the 84FS. It CANNOT be carried cocked and locked. There are only two positions to the safety/decocker, decocked and fire! What some people perceive when moving the safety from the fire position to the decock position is just a spot the lever hits prior to going all the way to the decock position. The gun will still fire in this position. It is not a spot intended for the lever to be left in. Do not carry the gun with the lever in this position!!!

[PSP]

Here's a link to the Beretta forum and a thread discussing the 81 series features.
http://berettaforum.net/vb/showthrea...es+differences