Acceptable secondary ID for Virginia??

capflyboy05 · May 24, 2011, 11:06 PM

I am only 18, and dont pay taxes, I dont have a passport or hunting or fishing licence.... I do have a paystub with my address on it, and I also have a bank statement that just came a couple days ago.... should this work alright?
They both have my address on them. And my primary ID is my state drivers licence which I've had for over 30 days. I should be good right?

**Aguila Blanca** · May 25, 2011, 05:37 AM

Good for ___?

**Mike Irwin** · May 25, 2011, 06:32 AM

Given your age, I'm assuming you mean to purchase a rifle.

Your primary ID is always your state issued picture ID.

The secondary ID (unless they've changed it lately) can include a utility bill that shows the same address as your picture ID, I THINK you can use a bank statement as well, and I know that a Voter's Registration Card is also gold.

From Virginia law on firearms purchase requirements:

"To establish personal identification and residence in Virginia for purposes of this section, a dealer must require any prospective purchaser to present one photo-identification form issued by a governmental agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense, and other documentation of residence. Except where the photo-identification was issued by the United States Department of Defense, the other documentation of residence shall show an address identical to that shown on the photo-identification form, such as evidence of currently paid personal property tax or real estate tax, or a current (a) lease, (b) utility or telephone bill, (c) voter registration card, (d) bank check, (e) passport, (f) automobile registration, or (g) hunting or fishing license; other current identification allowed as evidence of residency by Part 178.124 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations and ATF Ruling 2001-5; or other documentation of residence determined to be acceptable by the Department of Criminal Justice Services, that corroborates that the prospective purchaser currently resides in Virginia."

I believe that, if you're buying an "assault rifle," you need to also prove citizenship...

OK, from the Virginia law on assault weapons (yes, I know, they're not assault weapons)

"In addition, no dealer shall sell, rent, trade or transfer from his inventory any assault firearm to any person who is not a citizen of the United States or who is not a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence. To establish citizenship or lawful admission for a permanent residence for purposes of purchasing an assault firearm, a dealer shall require a prospective purchaser to present a certified birth certificate or a certificate of birth abroad issued by the United States State Department, a certificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, an unexpired U.S. passport, a United States citizen identification card, a current voter registration card, a current selective service registration card, or an immigrant visa or other documentation of status as a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services."

brickeyee · May 25, 2011, 01:33 PM

The complete rules are on the Virginia State Police web site.
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm

highvel · May 25, 2011, 09:22 PM

I don't remember the citizenship thing the last time I bought an "Assault Rifle", oh wait, it may have been a Assault Pistol

**Mike Irwin** · May 26, 2011, 06:21 AM

No, it was an INsult pistol, you knucklehead!

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

rburch · May 26, 2011, 11:09 AM

I always just used my car registration and driver's license.

Well until I got my CCW that is.

Navy joe · May 30, 2011, 12:25 AM

Yep, always used car registration until I got my CCW.

May 24, 2011, 11:06 PM	#1
capflyboy05 Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 114	Acceptable secondary ID for Virginia?? I am only 18, and dont pay taxes, I dont have a passport or hunting or fishing licence.... I do have a paystub with my address on it, and I also have a bank statement that just came a couple days ago.... should this work alright? They both have my address on them. And my primary ID is my state drivers licence which I've had for over 30 days. I should be good right? __________________ "The only people who should feel threatened by armed citizens are tyrants and criminals."

May 25, 2011, 06:32 AM	#3
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Given your age, I'm assuming you mean to purchase a rifle. Your primary ID is always your state issued picture ID. The secondary ID (unless they've changed it lately) can include a utility bill that shows the same address as your picture ID, I THINK you can use a bank statement as well, and I know that a Voter's Registration Card is also gold. From Virginia law on firearms purchase requirements: "To establish personal identification and residence in Virginia for purposes of this section, a dealer must require any prospective purchaser to present one photo-identification form issued by a governmental agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense, and other documentation of residence. Except where the photo-identification was issued by the United States Department of Defense, the other documentation of residence shall show an address identical to that shown on the photo-identification form, such as evidence of currently paid personal property tax or real estate tax, or a current (a) lease, (b) utility or telephone bill, (c) voter registration card, (d) bank check, (e) passport, (f) automobile registration, or (g) hunting or fishing license; other current identification allowed as evidence of residency by Part 178.124 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations and ATF Ruling 2001-5; or other documentation of residence determined to be acceptable by the Department of Criminal Justice Services, that corroborates that the prospective purchaser currently resides in Virginia." I believe that, if you're buying an "assault rifle," you need to also prove citizenship... OK, from the Virginia law on assault weapons (yes, I know, they're not assault weapons) "In addition, no dealer shall sell, rent, trade or transfer from his inventory any assault firearm to any person who is not a citizen of the United States or who is not a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence. To establish citizenship or lawful admission for a permanent residence for purposes of purchasing an assault firearm, a dealer shall require a prospective purchaser to present a certified birth certificate or a certificate of birth abroad issued by the United States State Department, a certificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, an unexpired U.S. passport, a United States citizen identification card, a current voter registration card, a current selective service registration card, or an immigrant visa or other documentation of status as a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services." __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 25, 2011, 09:22 PM	#5
highvel Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2010 Location: Powhatan VA Posts: 633	I don't remember the citizenship thing the last time I bought an "Assault Rifle", oh wait, it may have been a Assault Pistol __________________ Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.--Mark Twain "I have opinions of my own 'strong opinions' but I don't always agree with them."--George Bush

May 26, 2011, 06:21 AM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	No, it was an INsult pistol, you knucklehead! Nyuk nyuk nyuk! __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 26, 2011, 11:09 AM	#7
rburch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2007 Location: Blacksburg VA Posts: 750	I always just used my car registration and driver's license. Well until I got my CCW that is. __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

May 25, 2011, 05:37 AM	#2
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	Good for ___?

May 25, 2011, 01:33 PM	#4
brickeyee Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Posts: 3,351	The complete rules are on the Virginia State Police web site. http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm

May 30, 2011, 12:25 AM	#8
Navy joe Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2001 Location: VA, USA Posts: 1,804	Yep, always used car registration until I got my CCW. __________________ FY47012