|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
October 11, 2015, 01:57 PM | #1 |
Junior Member
Join Date: May 24, 2015
Posts: 5
|
are these the same rounds?
sorry for the newbie question, is there a difference between 380ACP and 380AUTO? will they both fire from the same semi?
|
October 11, 2015, 02:03 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 8, 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,787
|
Those are synonyms. The same round is also called the 9 mm short, with "short" in various languages, such as "corto" in Italian.
|
October 11, 2015, 02:06 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 1, 2005
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 1,804
|
380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) = 9mm Short and the various foreign language words for short. And measures 9x17mm.
|
October 11, 2015, 02:18 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 8, 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,787
|
I came back to add that ACP stands for Automatic Colt Pistol and found that P5 Guy thought of adding it. Thanks for making the answer more complete.
And DRD, everything that anyone knows was learned somewhere. Ask anything you want and you will find many helpful people here. Welcome to TFL. |
October 11, 2015, 07:33 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 11, 2012
Location: Mountains of Appalachia
Posts: 1,598
|
I look at like a 22 size wise. All have the almost same diameter bullet:
.380=short 38 Special=long 9mm=long rifle 357=magnum |
October 11, 2015, 08:29 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 10, 2015
Location: ga
Posts: 321
|
Quote. "I look at like a 22 size wise. All have the almost same diameter bullet:
.380=short 38 Special=long 9mm=long rifle 357=magnum" What would 38acp/super be then? Last edited by xandi; October 11, 2015 at 09:26 PM. |
October 11, 2015, 08:47 PM | #7 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 8,306
|
Quote:
But what's a couple thousandths of an inch when you're making a completely illogical comparison.
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING! |
|
October 11, 2015, 09:18 PM | #8 | |
Staff
Join Date: February 12, 2001
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 24,971
|
.380ACP aliases
9mm Short .380Auto 9mm Kurz 9mm Corto 9x17 9mm Browning 9mm Browning Court In spite of the similarity in the names, it's worth pointing out that the .380ACP is NOT merely a shortened 9x19mm. The bullet diameters are identical, but the 9mm (also called the 9x19mm, 9mmParabellum, 9mm Luger) case is slightly tapered while the .380 case is straight. Quote:
They are semi-rimmed cartridges (as opposed to the .380ACP and 9mm which are rimless) with a bullet diameter which is nominally VERY slightly larger than the 9mm/.380ACP bullet. Functionally speaking, the bullet diameters are interchangeable although the cartridges are most certainly not. The .38ACP and .38Super cases are nominally about 23 millimeters in length, significantly longer than either the .380ACP or 9mmx19.
__________________
Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?
|
|
October 12, 2015, 06:02 AM | #9 |
Member
Join Date: October 18, 2014
Posts: 52
|
Yes, those two rounds are the same.
|
October 12, 2015, 06:16 AM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 2, 2015
Location: Issaquah, Washington
Posts: 1,032
|
Wikipedia usually has a serviceable writeup on most ammo calibers. The nomenclature can be confusing, especially with foreign-made guns and ammo, and lots of folks get confused.
I have two Czech-made CZ 83s, one in .380 ACP and the other in .32 ACP. Their slides state their calibers are 9 Browning Court and 7.65 Browning, respectively. After buying a pistol chambered in 9 Luger (aka 9 Parabellum or 9x19), I walked into a sporting goods store in search of ammo. The elderly sales clerk told me he had no 9mm ammo, except for some 9mm Short that I could shoot in my new gun. He showed me a box of .380 ACP. I told him that was an entirely different caliber, and he eyed me suspiciously. I have a CZ 82, which is chambered in 9 Makarov. I went into a gun store once and bought a couple of boxes each of 9 Makarov and 9 Luger. The clerk looked at me in horror and asked if I knew they were different and can't be used in the same gun. I calmly nodded that I did, but I think he thought I was too proud to admit an error. My guess is he sees a fair number of folks buying the wrong stuff. Not that all 9mm calibers have the exact same diameter, but they are nominally that wide. Interestingly, the most common nominal handgun caliber is 9mm by far. Wikipedia lists more than 30: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_caliber. Compare that to 15 such calibers around 10mm, and only 8 around 8mm. Could that be because 9mm is the optimal nominal caliber for a service sidearm? |
October 12, 2015, 07:33 AM | #11 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 20, 2014
Posts: 2,084
|
Quote:
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|