July 23, 2012, 01:57 AM | #1 |
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Another cc question
I was told at my concealed carry class that we could conceal carry into any building as long as it didnt have a 30.06 sign or 51% sign and the 30.06 sign has to mention 30.06 law be in Spanish and English on all entrances at least 1" print and in contrasting colors. Also the federal stuff I.e banks post offices etc. I've been combing through the chl book and have just seen it mention sign or signs that reasonably come into view
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July 23, 2012, 02:33 AM | #2 |
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1. You didn't ask a question
2. Banks are not federal and are not restricted by state or federal law from concealed carry. 3. You cannot carry into a lot more buildings than just those marked 51%, or 30.06, and post offices. You really need to review your CHL book much more closely. If you really got that information in your CHL class, then you rec'd incorrect information and you really need to study your CHL book.
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July 23, 2012, 06:00 PM | #3 |
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Depends on the State, some do have specific requirements on signage. Normally in states where you can be arrested for having the gun in marked buisnesses. In most states you are not supposed carry in marked buildings but there is no specific penalty for doing so and just a requirement you leave if asked. Federal buildings and post offices are off limits, but in most states banks and other finacial institutions are treated like any other private buisness with no specific ban on CC. 30.06 sounds like a specific statute, if you coulc mention which state you are looking for information for, that would be helpful.
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CC 30.06 is a state law that ALLOWS property owners to post their premises against carrying concealed weapons. In order for the posting to carry the force of law, the sign must conform exactly with the requirements set forth in the law. If you really want to know what the requirements are -- read the law, not a handbook that tells you what the author thinks the law says.
The law won't tell you what places are posted with the sign, because that's up to the property owner. NOTE: This is for Texas. In other states that provide for posting to carry force of law, NOT all of them define the requirements for the signs as precisely as Texas does. |
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I listed the 30.06 section below and part of 30.05 that deals with posting property for criminal tresspass that is mentioned in 30.06. In essence, if the buisness owner wants to inform you via a sign that he does not wish you to carry on his property he needs a sign meeting the requirements of 30.06 posted at the entry so that it can be seen (30.05). However, the owner can also just notify you that they do not allow carry. For a buisness with no or deficient sign, you have to leave if notified otherwise you are tresspassing, for a buisness with a legally worded, constructed, and posted sign you are quilty of tresspass when you enter the property with the gun.
With todays internet, most laws can be quickly looked up and in most states read. There are always issues of what the law actually means, sometimes even when clearly worded, which is why we have courts and lawyers. I am not a lawyer and just looked up the wording for you and did a short summary. Quote:
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July 24, 2012, 08:40 PM | #7 |
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Plus any place where you are told by a representative of the business/property that you are not allowed to carry then becomes a place where you can't carry. They don't need a sign.
s.t.d.I, you still haven't asked a question.
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July 24, 2012, 09:21 PM | #8 |
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The pictures in this link show you what they look like...
http://www.practicaltacticaltraining...as-sign-guide/ In my experience, the 51% sign can be trickier to spot, because it's much smaller and is sometimes mingled with other clutter such as the chalkboard advertising the drink specials, posters for upcoming live music acts, pictures of happy patrons, etc.
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