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Old February 19, 2010, 02:06 PM   #1
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What's the difference between 300 win mag and 300 weatherby Mag

I know a little bit about the 300 win mag but not real familar with the Weatherby Mag. Is there that much difference? The reason I am asking is that I can get a used Remington 700 .300 Weatherby Mag with slighty scratched woodstock no scope for $299.00 Or I can get a Salvage 111 .300 Win. Mag. 349.00. The 111 is what I have been looking for but I have heard sonme good thing about the 700.

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Old February 19, 2010, 02:12 PM   #2
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Ya the 700 is good but I wouldn't expect it to be any better than the Savage. The .300 Weatherby is basically just more powder, so a slightly heavier .30 caliber magnum charge. It's a great round, but I'd have to ask myself if it's in reality any better at all than the .300 winmag, which can kill anything in North America with ease. The Weatherby will shoot a little flatter, go a little faster, and carry a little more force. The downside is more recoil/noise than the .300 winmag. Also ammo is not nearly as widespread for it.
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Old February 19, 2010, 02:29 PM   #3
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The ammo in plenty widespread in country in which it shines (Wyoming)...
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Old February 19, 2010, 02:30 PM   #4
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Chuck Yeager described the 300 WBY as the perfect elk round.

The difference in performance between the Win and WBY is pretty small. Some people like the WBY for the longer neck, but the Winchester version has proven itself to be plenty accurate, despite it's short neck.

The WBY ammo will be a good bit more $, unless you handload. Then the difference will be nil.

So, the 50 bucks you save with the Remington will be negated very quickly unless you handload. However, I am a 300 WBY fan, as well as a 700 fan, and I handload. The choice would be a no brainer for me....
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Old February 19, 2010, 03:15 PM   #5
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Ammo might be more widespread in places, but I'd bet that there's no place in North America that normally carries more 300 weatherby mag ammo than 300 winmag. But don't let that stop you. If you're going to casually use it to hunt a few times a year, you'll be going through 2 or 3 boxes anyways, so it's no big deal. If you're going to really get to know it, you'll prolly be handloading anyways. But the ability to go to any sporting store and pick up a box of cheap ammo is a plus for any gun, if just for the brass.
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Old February 19, 2010, 03:54 PM   #6
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Thanks for the help. Now I see why the Rem. 700 is so cheap. The price of ammo is more then I would have first thought. Hornady was the cheapest at 45.00 for 20 So due to ammo cost I guess I will pay a little extra for the Savage 111.
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Old February 19, 2010, 04:07 PM   #7
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OK now tell us where this $300 Remington is.............

Please.
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Old February 19, 2010, 04:09 PM   #8
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What's the difference between 300 win mag and 300 weatherby Mag?
Probably about $20 per box of 20 rounds.
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Old February 19, 2010, 04:53 PM   #9
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uncyboo It's at a pawn shop in Concord North Carolina. I may still get it. but I am leaningmore towards the Savage.
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Old February 19, 2010, 09:00 PM   #10
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win mag or wby mag

I can tell you one thing, the Weatherby magnum will not only rattle your teeth, it will curl your toes with its recoil. The recoil of the .300 win. mag. is considerably less than that of the Weatherby magnum and the difference in the performance is not enough to justify punishing yourself to that extent.
Just one man's opinion that has shot both and hunted with a Remington 700 in .300 win. mag. for about 26 years now. Besides, I've heard that the new Savages are fine shooting rifles and wouldn't hesitate to purchase one.
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Old February 19, 2010, 09:48 PM   #11
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^^^

No whining.... It's not that much more recoil than a win mag.....
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Old February 19, 2010, 09:53 PM   #12
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300 Weatherby,you want be disappointed! Its a confidence builder when you know you have the best...Recoil is near same...Much faster!...and a lot flatter..
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Old February 20, 2010, 12:15 AM   #13
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But now Hornady is making .300 WM ammo that matches .300 Weatherby....

Superperformance .300 WM data.

http://www.hornady.com/store/300-Win...Superformance/

Normal .300 Weatherby data.

http://www.hornady.com/store/300-Wea...-gr-InterBond/
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Old February 20, 2010, 12:19 AM   #14
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Probably about $20 per box of 20 rounds.
My thoughts exactly. Saw a box of Remington Express Corelokt .300 WBY Mag in a TN Walmart for 51.99 a box.

About twice what the equivalent .300 Win Mag ammo goes for I think.
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Old February 20, 2010, 01:41 AM   #15
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The full power stuff is the weatherby factory ammo...

Compare the 180 grain superformance hornady stuff to 180 weatherby factory ammo...

Hornady: 3120

Weatherby (Norma): 3250

Most commercial 180 grain .300 win mag ammo is around 2960 FPS....
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Old February 20, 2010, 03:55 AM   #16
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I use a rule of thumb: any load for the 300 Win Mag, the Weatherby will beat by 200-300 fps. Takes 10% more powder to gain 5% more velocity. If the 300 Weatherby is worth the extra recoil and noise to you, it does shoot pretty flat. 300 Rem Ultra Mag runs about the same velocity.
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Old February 20, 2010, 04:49 AM   #17
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I have reloaded and used both 300 WM, and 300WBY. With bullet weights 180gr and under the difference is really insignificant. The longer case neck allows the Weatherby to seat and chamber longer heavier bullets and fire them faster. I am and always have been fascinated by the highest intensity rounds. I started reloading for 7mag and 300WM in 1976. I now reload for 300WBY, 340WBY, 6.5x55, 223, and 44MAG. I haven't tried the Hornady brass, but know the Norma made Weatherby brass to be much superior to the Rem brass which I have tried and is not durable at the pressures that Wby factory brass can be loaded to. My latest favorite load is the 190gr Hornady JSPBT, at 3100fps, chronoed. If you are going to reload you would be best served and satisfied going with the 300WBY,IMO.

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Old February 20, 2010, 08:23 AM   #18
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Looking at the ballistics you find the Weatherby uses a lot more powder to get a little more velocity and this is more true with heavier bullets, 180s and up. This extra powder which is not producing energy in the bullet causes substantially more recoil. I'd go with the Winchester magnum. Weatherby is notorious for overstating their velocities. Look in loading manuals for honest information.
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Old February 20, 2010, 08:27 AM   #19
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Perfect elk round?

I guess I will take the 30-06 with half the amount of recoil not loss in hunting accuracy and enough effective range that 98% of all hunters would not be able to extend ethically with the 300 Weatherby.
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Old February 20, 2010, 10:02 AM   #20
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Both

For that price I'd have to buy both.
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Old February 20, 2010, 11:34 AM   #21
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If you are going to shoot 180gr bullets, get a .30-06...My son has a Model 70 in .300 Win Mag. We reload for it using 200gr Sierra bullets. When we go to the range, he will shoot it 3 or 4 times then put it away. And he weighs 215lbs.
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For that price I'd have to buy both.
This is the best idea yet.
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Old February 20, 2010, 02:16 PM   #23
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Perfect elk round?

I guess I will take the 30-06 with half the amount of recoil not loss in hunting accuracy and enough effective range that 98% of all hunters would not be able to extend ethically with the 300 Weatherby.
I was just quoting Yeager. '06 is of course a great round, but the OP's question was based on 300 Win and 300 WBY.
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The loading manuals are always conservative, I have dozens of them and I can beat anything they show with my own handloads. Yes, Weatherby or any 30 cal magnum cartridge has considerable recoil. My 16 year old son, all 130lbs of him, fires 16-20 rounds through the 300 and has never complained about the recoil, he gets very good groups too. My point is you can learn to accommodate recoil, with practice. Having reloaded both, I find the WBY superior ballistically in every way. I have taken two large mule deer with the WBY using 180gr Triple shocks and the results are devastating! Neither moved a yard. The brass is cheaper for the 300WM, but also inferior to the Norma brass, you will get fewer reloads using WM brass, unless you use milder loads than possible. All said though, there is isn't enough difference to make an issue over, both will perform on any large game on this continent.
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Old February 20, 2010, 05:25 PM   #25
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Probably about $20 per box of 20 rounds.
Another plug for the more common and cheaper cartridge.
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