ASP Baton

ktmhk53 · November 8, 2002, 08:58 PM

Greetings,
I just purchased a new 21" ASP Baton and have yet to receive formal training for its use.
Would you relay your experiences with it, ie. good/bad manuevers, its strengths/weaknesses, etc...

Respectfully,

ktmhk53

mons-meg · November 8, 2002, 09:27 PM

As far as using it, if there isn't a quick ASP specific course available in your area, then look for a Kali/Escrima/Arnis type school in your area. Commit to at least a year if you want to really learn some basics.

Cowdogpete · November 8, 2002, 09:40 PM

Or go to Powderhorn Ranch in Colorado for a week and get some good pointers and training on how to use a baton. Word of caution, they will advise you to trade it off for a Winchester Baton. (and I agree with that)

Demi Barbito · November 9, 2002, 10:54 AM

For the proper use of the baton you do not want the "ASP Training". You want more of a stickfighting game. The Kali/Filipino methods are best.

Demi

www.DemiBarbito.com

Blue Duck357 · November 10, 2002, 10:45 AM

At least as of a couple of years ago if you trained with an ASP certified instructor and were involved in a confrontation they would provide an expert witness on your behalf free of charge. One was provided for a local Deputy and did a very good job describing the "Forgiving Strikezone" and seemed to help the case.

Master Shoji down the street likely would not do as well

GunFool · November 10, 2002, 11:48 AM

Paladin press has two decent videos available on expandable baton application...one by Kelly Worden and one by Kelly McCann/Jim Grover. Both are pretty good. I have some background in two seperate styles of stick-oriented FMA and I can say that both videos are pretty good. Nothing beats real world instruction but these will help as FMA instruction still tends to be hard to find. The vids are especially good in that they show you how to keep using the weapon when it inevitably collapses (which can and does happen under heavy use) and how to recover. You didnt mention your intended use for the ASP..I'm assuming personal defense? Concealed, home, or uniformed use?

November 8, 2002, 08:58 PM	#1
ktmhk53 Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Posts: 76	ASP Baton Greetings, I just purchased a new 21" ASP Baton and have yet to receive formal training for its use. Would you relay your experiences with it, ie. good/bad manuevers, its strengths/weaknesses, etc... Respectfully, ktmhk53 __________________ Striving for naiveté...

November 8, 2002, 09:27 PM	#2
mons-meg Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Location: North Central OK Posts: 206	As far as using it, if there isn't a quick ASP specific course available in your area, then look for a Kali/Escrima/Arnis type school in your area. Commit to at least a year if you want to really learn some basics. __________________ What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about!?!?

November 8, 2002, 09:40 PM	#3
Cowdogpete Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2002 Location: Bosque County, TX Posts: 265	Or go to Powderhorn Ranch in Colorado for a week and get some good pointers and training on how to use a baton. Word of caution, they will advise you to trade it off for a Winchester Baton. (and I agree with that) __________________ Smoke on THR I love the smell of cordite in the morning.

November 10, 2002, 11:48 AM	#6
GunFool Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2000 Posts: 157	Paladin press has two decent videos available on expandable baton application...one by Kelly Worden and one by Kelly McCann/Jim Grover. Both are pretty good. I have some background in two seperate styles of stick-oriented FMA and I can say that both videos are pretty good. Nothing beats real world instruction but these will help as FMA instruction still tends to be hard to find. The vids are especially good in that they show you how to keep using the weapon when it inevitably collapses (which can and does happen under heavy use) and how to recover. You didnt mention your intended use for the ASP..I'm assuming personal defense? Concealed, home, or uniformed use? __________________ It is US against THEM. Whoever they are.

November 9, 2002, 10:54 AM	#4
Demi Barbito Member Join Date: March 30, 2000 Location: Ca. Posts: 22	For the proper use of the baton you do not want the "ASP Training". You want more of a stickfighting game. The Kali/Filipino methods are best. Demi www.DemiBarbito.com

November 10, 2002, 10:45 AM	#5
Blue Duck357 Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2000 Posts: 1,460	At least as of a couple of years ago if you trained with an ASP certified instructor and were involved in a confrontation they would provide an expert witness on your behalf free of charge. One was provided for a local Deputy and did a very good job describing the "Forgiving Strikezone" and seemed to help the case. Master Shoji down the street likely would not do as well