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July 30, 2010, 04:13 PM | #1 |
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Is knowing ccw laws part of your training?
Do you consider knowing your state/local ccw gun laws part of your training?
I ask this because of the "dealing with the concealed carrier" article for cops about ccw carriers where it stated that many will not be familiar with the laws. After several encounters i have determined that i am more knowledgeable about the local gun laws than most cops. I frequently check for changes in the laws of where i live, and travel. I consider it as important as being able to hit the target. what says you?
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July 30, 2010, 04:19 PM | #2 |
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Knowing the law is more important than the gun. If you don’t know the law you’d better not be carrying.
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July 30, 2010, 04:21 PM | #3 |
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TX makes it part of the CHL procedure. It's a good idea. However, folks here have been getting a cheaper Utah permit and avoiding the TX law part.
It will fun to see if one goes to court and it is brought up that they used a technicality to skirt the TX CHL and then did a bad thing which they might have avoided. Quite an argument here about that.
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July 30, 2010, 04:36 PM | #4 |
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I agree....If your not going to learn the laws of your respective state or those
of which you have a carry permit,you have no business having the weapon,or even carrying it. Besides,why would you do that to your self to begin with.
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July 30, 2010, 04:39 PM | #5 |
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Absolutely.
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July 30, 2010, 04:55 PM | #6 |
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Do you consider knowing your state/local ccw gun laws part of your training?
It better be part of your training... Knowing your state's laws, guide lines, and the use of force while carrying a weapon in public, as a civilian, should be a standard in all states with CC permits. If your state doesn't require it as a part of CC permit/license, then learn it on your own, take a class/course/personal trainer.
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July 30, 2010, 05:19 PM | #7 |
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Absolutely. In fact, most of the questions on my CWP course test in SC concerned handgun and concealed carry laws.
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July 30, 2010, 07:52 PM | #9 |
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Absolutely. Although I'm no lawyer (ie I may not know some of the case law stuff, etc), I religiously keep up with the laws of any land that I find myself in.
I don't want to go as far as to say it should be required by law, but I think that if you carry, even occasionally, you should know the law well. It's for your own good... Know the law.
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July 30, 2010, 08:19 PM | #10 |
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Knowing the law
A local attorney Brian Ciyou has writen two books "Indiana Handgun laws Vol. 1 and vol.2" In this he mentions it took two years of reserch to find the applicable laws. Now that is from a profesional law person who knows how to research law and look up statutes. What has changed since the last printing? I don't know. How one keeps current on new laws is beyond me. Considering that a new gun law may be passed in a bundle of other non related laws it is a daunting task to keep abreast of these things. Ignorance is no excuse. I did attempt to track some actions in the state legislature and city councel recently but got lost in subsection A of subsection C as related to SB 142/397 As related in council staute......................
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July 30, 2010, 11:51 PM | #11 |
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yes indeed. I retake the CCW course 2-3 times per year. Laws are always changing.
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July 31, 2010, 07:27 AM | #12 |
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You know there's ways to stay updated on the laws without retaking/paying for the course over and over. Sounds like a waste of money.
(The ccw course runs between $55-$75 here.) In regards to the OP, it is important to know both the laws and your rights. My biggest gripe about getting a TN permit is after you take the course, you have to get fingerprinted (like a criminal) and your actual license is done at the DMV (a place that even the most saintly person would be tempted to forget "responsible" firearm usage.)
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July 31, 2010, 10:05 AM | #13 |
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Perhaps you are right. However I think $10 for listening to a retired county District Attorney give a CCW class is well worth it. The low cost is just for folks who got their CCW from him and are just sitting in to keep current on laws. No range time is included. Different strokes for different folkss. I smiled at your judgements.
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July 31, 2010, 10:48 AM | #14 |
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I have taken it one step farther. I periodically check the Attorney General's websites of updates in the CCW laws and I keep a copy of the law in my vehicle at all times. This tends to keep me informed of the current CCW laws as they apply to my state, and in all fairness to LEO's, they are not always fully aware of current laws, so it could be helpful in an encounter with law enforcement.
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July 31, 2010, 11:33 AM | #15 |
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Most of the hours-long class portion requirement for getting a Nevada concealed firearm permit (CFP) is about the laws that govern proper use of deadly force and the CFP permit itself. The class assumes that we already know how to handle our handguns. (Although the permit does not; the law requires that you qualify with a revolver to carry revolvers, and with each
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"...it is important to know both the laws and your rights..." It's essential to know all firearm laws. Especially with King Obama in office.
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August 1, 2010, 07:02 AM | #17 |
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Although some courses set up specifically for concealed carry include discussion of the VA laws, the permit itself does not require any specific CPP training. The required course is just required to have firearm safety training. I used my Hunter Training course. I did take a NRA basic handgun course and the instructor mentioned some things on concealed carry, since that is why most of the class was there, but it was not part of the official course as afar as I know.
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August 1, 2010, 07:50 AM | #18 |
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I was a licensed peace officer when I first took CHL training, had been for years. Learned a lot of valuable information, well worth my time and money. At that time the average peace officer was not aware of many of the then-new laws, hopefully that has changed. Our renewals here in TX deal mostly with changes in law and are also time well spent. I felt fortunate to have very good instructors both initially and at renewal time. I've heard of a few instrutors who merely fill the time or even do the minimal amount of paperwork and hand out certificates. That's a terrible disservice and a scary situation.
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August 3, 2010, 10:19 AM | #19 |
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i live in ny
there is a book available that has the state's gun laws in a looseleaf binder when you buy the book, you can subscribe to the update service and every year the laws which have been changed/ammended are sent to you you go through the book and remove the old pages and insert the new updated pages....it is a slow process because you have to go page by page....but you stay up to date.... the new additions are mailed yearly and they assume you will pay the bill when you receive the updates (i would guess you could cancel, but i like getting the updates) i thought it was just for ny but at their website i see they have a button for the 50 states, so i would guess that there is something available to every one there are also lots of other good publications in their catalog here is the website for the 50 state button http://www.looseleaflaw.com/lawsin50states.html i often read the state's laws on self defense and use of force, just to remind myself of what the obligation is on our part as people who can carry sorry for the commercial plug....i dont work for these guys and i stand nothing to gain by mentioning them i do so because they offer a service that is very good, complete, concise and timely edited to add: i clicked on the link for ny and it has the laws right there for your perusal....i should have clicked before i hit submit
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