Cartridge Quiz - Page 5

RaySendero · January 7, 2017, 07:58 PM

4 correct

FrankenMauser · January 7, 2017, 08:51 PM

So, 1 and 3-5 are definitely set.

It's just #2 left.

I'm running out of ideas.

How about 7.5x55 Swiss?

It's that or a blown out 7.62x57mm...

RaySendero · January 7, 2017, 08:55 PM

7.5x55 Swiss -

We have a Winner !

FrankenMauser · January 7, 2017, 11:28 PM

That was a rough one.

RaySendero · January 8, 2017, 06:06 AM

I figured someone would get it when you guessed the 284 Win.

You can actually make a 7.5x55 by running a 284 case thru a 7.5x55 die.

taylorce1 · January 8, 2017, 01:02 PM

Here is one only 2 cartridges same caliber 2 different bullets:

Here is my first true wildcat and only AI cartridge I ever tried in various stages of forming. Didn't have any pics next to any other cartridge for reference so I hope the tape measure helps.

RaySendero · January 8, 2017, 03:04 PM

OK, I'll start:

2 Cartridges in first pic are:

9.3x62 and 9.3x57

Cartridge in lower pic is:

303 AI - Epps

FrankenMauser · January 8, 2017, 03:25 PM

I think Ray got the 9.3, but the other two are .375 JDJ and ... 7mm GNR.

Jimro · January 8, 2017, 03:28 PM

Just to be different...

35 Gibbs
9x57r

and 25 Krag Improved

Jimro

RaySendero · January 8, 2017, 06:48 PM

Gosh, I missed the flange on the middle 2 in the 1st pic.
I don't think its a 9.3X57R

So.......If were to do this w/o hints. I'm going to cherry pick:

1st Pic:
9.3x62 and 375 JDJ

2nd Pic:
303 Epps

FrankenMauser · January 8, 2017, 09:17 PM

Arrggh.
I just went back to see if the photo itself provided any hints, and it does.

I promise, I did not cheat. ...Which may be evident based on my use of an incorrect name.

taylorce1 · January 8, 2017, 10:13 PM

.375 JDJ is correct.
7mm/.280 GNR is correct.

FrankenMauser · January 8, 2017, 11:21 PM

taylorce1,
Why did you go with the short neck?
That threw me off for quite a while.

taylorce1 · January 8, 2017, 11:42 PM

Well I guess I gave that one away! I got the GNR barrel second hand and didn't realize the 7mm GNR is based off the .30- 30 case and my .280 is based off the .405 Win case. The short neck is the way the barrel came chambered from Gary Reeder.

I don't have the barrel anymore it was too much of a good thing with the brake it had on it. It would peel my muffs off if I was wearing a ball cap to shoot in, and the concussion from it caused quite a flinch. I traded it to a guy for the .375 JDJ, since the .280 had a 17.5" barrel he tried using it as a carbine. I don't think I'd ever want my face that close to the brake!

RaySendero · January 9, 2017, 12:24 PM

Quote:

FrankenMauser wrote:

I promise, I did not cheat. ...Which may be evident based on my use of an incorrect name.

I believe ya!

You did real good on IDing that 7mm - I had never heard of that one.
I had no idea past some type of improved 303B.

FrankenMauser · January 9, 2017, 03:26 PM

Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a GNR version of 7-30 Waters.
That does make me incorrect.

My guess was based on the .405 Win wildcat, which I now know is properly called .280 GNR.
I've heard of some of the GNRs before, but never really paid attention.

What actually got me there was that the case body and shoulder really reminded me of a couple ICL cartridges, combined with realizing that the middle cartridge in the first image was probably a .444 Marlin wildcat (and likely a JDJ).

So, I started running through TC chamberings (primarily aftermarket), looking for something with that funky, short neck.
I never did find it, but I realized that the case body seemed too long for .444 Marlin and I suspected the bullet diameter was between 6.5mm and .30 caliber.

.310 GNR popped up, and I figured I was in the right family - just with a shorter neck.
I was going to guess that it was a 6.5mm variation, but the bullet-to-body diameter ratio wasn't right and the bullets were too stubby. And the red-tipped bullet somehow looked "wrong" for a .30 caliber.
So I split the difference and went with "7mm GNR".

.375 JDJ was just a matter of being very familiar with .444 Marlin (awesome cartridge), and comparing .358 and .375 JDJ.

taylorce1 · January 10, 2017, 01:03 PM

Still only 2 out of 3 correct so far.

.375 JDJ
.280 GNR

Scorch · January 10, 2017, 03:52 PM

I am going to guess the center two cartridges are .357 Herrett, although they look to be loaded with .358" spitzers and I always loaded with .357" flat points.

taylorce1 · January 10, 2017, 04:57 PM

The middle two are .375 JDJ with Speer SPBT on the left and Nosler Partition on the right.

RaySendero · January 10, 2017, 05:43 PM

How about:

9.3x64

taylorce1 · January 10, 2017, 06:14 PM

Nope!

Scorch · January 10, 2017, 07:14 PM

Sorry, I thought we had already iDed the outer two. 375 RCM?

FrankenMauser · January 10, 2017, 07:16 PM

.375 Ruger?

Scorch beat me while I was reading!

taylorce1 · January 10, 2017, 09:29 PM

.375 Ruger is correct, I don't think it was ever called an RCM.

Scorch · January 11, 2017, 01:47 AM

OK, my bad.

January 7, 2017, 07:58 PM	#101
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	4 correct __________________ *Ray*

January 7, 2017, 08:51 PM	#102
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	So, 1 and 3-5 are definitely set. It's just #2 left. I'm running out of ideas. How about 7.5x55 Swiss? It's that or a blown out 7.62x57mm... __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 7, 2017, 08:55 PM	#103
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	7.5x55 Swiss - We have a Winner ! __________________ *Ray*

January 7, 2017, 11:28 PM	#104
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	That was a rough one. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 8, 2017, 06:06 AM	#105
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	I figured someone would get it when you guessed the 284 Win. You can actually make a 7.5x55 by running a 284 case thru a 7.5x55 die. __________________ *Ray*

January 8, 2017, 01:02 PM	#106
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	Here is one only 2 cartridges same caliber 2 different bullets: Here is my first true wildcat and only AI cartridge I ever tried in various stages of forming. Didn't have any pics next to any other cartridge for reference so I hope the tape measure helps. __________________ NRA Life Member

January 8, 2017, 03:04 PM	#107
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	OK, I'll start: 2 Cartridges in first pic are: 9.3x62 and 9.3x57 Cartridge in lower pic is: 303 AI - Epps __________________ *Ray* Last edited by RaySendero; January 8, 2017 at 04:19 PM.

January 8, 2017, 03:25 PM	#108
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	I think Ray got the 9.3, but the other two are .375 JDJ and ... 7mm GNR. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 8, 2017, 03:28 PM	#109
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	Just to be different... 35 Gibbs 9x57r and 25 Krag Improved Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

January 8, 2017, 06:48 PM	#110
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	Gosh, I missed the flange on the middle 2 in the 1st pic. I don't think its a 9.3X57R So.......If were to do this w/o hints. I'm going to cherry pick: 1st Pic: 9.3x62 and 375 JDJ 2nd Pic: 303 Epps __________________ *Ray*

January 8, 2017, 09:17 PM	#111
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	Arrggh. I just went back to see if the photo itself provided any hints, and it does. I promise, I did not cheat. ...Which may be evident based on my use of an incorrect name. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 8, 2017, 10:13 PM	#112
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	.375 JDJ is correct. 7mm/.280 GNR is correct. __________________ NRA Life Member

January 8, 2017, 11:21 PM	#113
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	taylorce1, Why did you go with the short neck? That threw me off for quite a while. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 8, 2017, 11:42 PM	#114
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	Well I guess I gave that one away! I got the GNR barrel second hand and didn't realize the 7mm GNR is based off the .30- 30 case and my .280 is based off the .405 Win case. The short neck is the way the barrel came chambered from Gary Reeder. I don't have the barrel anymore it was too much of a good thing with the brake it had on it. It would peel my muffs off if I was wearing a ball cap to shoot in, and the concussion from it caused quite a flinch. I traded it to a guy for the .375 JDJ, since the .280 had a 17.5" barrel he tried using it as a carbine. I don't think I'd ever want my face that close to the brake! __________________ NRA Life Member Last edited by taylorce1; January 9, 2017 at 04:49 AM.

January 9, 2017, 03:26 PM	#116
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a GNR version of 7-30 Waters. That does make me incorrect. My guess was based on the .405 Win wildcat, which I now know is properly called .280 GNR. I've heard of some of the GNRs before, but never really paid attention. What actually got me there was that the case body and shoulder really reminded me of a couple ICL cartridges, combined with realizing that the middle cartridge in the first image was probably a .444 Marlin wildcat (and likely a JDJ). So, I started running through TC chamberings (primarily aftermarket), looking for something with that funky, short neck. I never did find it, but I realized that the case body seemed too long for .444 Marlin and I suspected the bullet diameter was between 6.5mm and .30 caliber. .310 GNR popped up, and I figured I was in the right family - just with a shorter neck. I was going to guess that it was a 6.5mm variation, but the bullet-to-body diameter ratio wasn't right and the bullets were too stubby. And the red-tipped bullet somehow looked "wrong" for a .30 caliber. So I split the difference and went with "7mm GNR". .375 JDJ was just a matter of being very familiar with .444 Marlin (awesome cartridge), and comparing .358 and .375 JDJ. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 10, 2017, 01:03 PM	#117
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	Still only 2 out of 3 correct so far. .375 JDJ .280 GNR __________________ NRA Life Member

January 10, 2017, 03:52 PM	#118
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	I am going to guess the center two cartridges are .357 Herrett, although they look to be loaded with .358" spitzers and I always loaded with .357" flat points. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

January 10, 2017, 04:57 PM	#119
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	The middle two are .375 JDJ with Speer SPBT on the left and Nosler Partition on the right. __________________ NRA Life Member

January 10, 2017, 05:43 PM	#120
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	How about: 9.3x64 __________________ *Ray*

January 10, 2017, 06:14 PM	#121
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	Nope! __________________ NRA Life Member

January 10, 2017, 07:14 PM	#122
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Sorry, I thought we had already iDed the outer two. 375 RCM? __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

January 10, 2017, 07:16 PM	#123
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	.375 Ruger? Scorch beat me while I was reading! __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

January 10, 2017, 09:29 PM	#124
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,238	.375 Ruger is correct, I don't think it was ever called an RCM. __________________ NRA Life Member

January 11, 2017, 01:47 AM	#125
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	OK, my bad. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

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