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November 4, 2014, 06:37 PM | #1 |
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Laws on building ar-15s?
So my dad and I are looking to get into coyote hunting. And seeing how we live in West Texas, with a lot if wide open spaces. The .22lr, 12 gauge pump, and Glock 23 we have just won't cut it. We've both agreed that an ar15 should be just fine for what we need. But since I love building things, I figured I'd like to build my AR. I'm 16, so everything would be in his name of course. I would just pick out what I need. Give him the money for the parts. And assemble it myself.
Is that a legal way to go about it? All answers welcome, thanks! |
November 4, 2014, 07:25 PM | #2 |
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Yes you can.
If you google "build your own AR", you'll get lots of good answers (and a few ~~).
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November 4, 2014, 09:29 PM | #3 |
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The lower receiver is the serialized part and therefore the "firearm." If you give him the money to buy that, he will be committing a straw purchase.
You can certainly work on the rifle, but you can't be the owner. It needs to stay in his possession until you're 18. At that point, he can give it to you as a gift. I know it's confusing and stupid, but that's how the law is written.
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November 4, 2014, 10:24 PM | #4 |
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He needs to buy the lower (thats the only part there is an age restriction on)
You can then build the rifle with the parts you choose. Technically, its his rifle. At 18 he can give it to you AR's are not hard to work on. A cpl specific tools and youre in business |
November 4, 2014, 10:48 PM | #5 |
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Refer to follow-up
Keep in mind that what Tom wrote applies equally to a stripped lower receiver (i.e. one without any fire control parts), an assembled lower, OR a complete firearm including the lower. The presence of the serial numbered lower receiver is what makes it a firearm pursuant to federal law, regardless of what other parts are attached to it. (State laws may vary.)
Also, if you intend to use a barrel shorter than 16" at some point, you need to familiarize yourself with the NFA. This topic is too broad to address in a short post, but be aware that the AR platform offers TWO* basic ways to incur NFA registration requirements: (a) assembly of a "short barreled rifle" (SBR) by using a shoulder stock and a barrel shorter than 16" on the same gun [*EDIT: See follow-on post], OR (b) assembly of a "weapon made from a rifle" by building a pistol (sans shoulder stock) with a lower receiver that was originally assembled as part of a rifle. The second method is counterintuitive and seemingly illogical (if not downright stupid), as there's no NFA restriction on assembling an AR pistol from a virgin lower, building a second AR pistol from a lower originally used on another pistol, OR assembling a rifle from a pistol. However, the law is the law. Of course, if you never mess around with barrels shorter than 16", there is no issue. (Now you know why AR parts suppliers offer so many 16" uppers.) Last edited by carguychris; November 5, 2014 at 08:44 AM. |
November 5, 2014, 12:30 AM | #6 |
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You would likely need to work on it directly under his supervision and he would have to retain control of it otherwise since you're a minor. Of course, that only goes for the lower receiver and everything attached to it, so you could build and possess the upper receiver as far as I know. Keep it over 16" bbl and 26" OAL
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NFA footnotes
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There are also two other ways to incur NFA regulations when building an AR, although they're less frequently a concern.
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November 15, 2014, 12:43 AM | #8 |
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The most complicated part of building an AR is the lower--and it is pretty much numb nuts simple. This is the instruction I followed after I had milled out an 80% lower. http://www.thenewrifleman.com/how-to...ower-receiver/
The upper is even easier. Brownell's has a video about putting one together. The nice thing about building your own is that you can chose the components you want. The downside of building your own are that some of the components you really really want will cost you an arm and a leg (like a Timney trigger clocking in at around $200). Add to that, the market for ARs right now is crashing, and "starter" ARs are going for little more than $500 with iron sights. |
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November 15, 2014, 01:46 PM | #10 |
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I guess that would depend on the laws of the OP's state
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