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Internal BATFE memo shows rank and file don't trust the bureau's leadership.
I think this speaks to the issue of not being able to contain leaks:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/26...t-trust-brass/ I also think that this in itself is an idictment of Dennis Burke, Bill Newell, Lanny Breuer, Eric Holder, and those people in BATFE who acquiesced to allowing the bureau to be used to implement their gun running scheme. |
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Let me try this again, apparently the way I worded it before was too political
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Fox news is reporting that Kevin O' Reilley, Former NSC Staffer who recieved copies of the Phoenix Batf SAC weekly updates on F&F, has agreed to testify telephonically. The agreement is conditioned upon the White House agreeing to allow the testimony.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...t-and-furious/ O'Reilley is currently working for the State Department in Iraq. His reassignment is reported to have occurred suddenly just prior to supenas being served. |
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Keep the Fire Burning
I have lost count of the number of people i have "clued in" to this outrageous abuse of federal powers. It is shocking how little mainstream media coverage this has obtained. I have written my Rep and Senators repeatedly, urging them to support efforts to uncover the truth. However, being from a decidedly blue state, i am afraid my concerns fall on deaf ears. The BS replies i receive are stock "thank you for sharing your concerns" type non-answers.
One of my senators is a former state AG. He was known as a "hawk", sticking his nose into (and committing state resources to) dozens of high-profile cases involving anti-trust issues, but i can't seem to ignite a single spark of interest in this matter. His disinterest is deplorable, all the more because it belies his past aggressiveness and clearly shows his "party line" support. Regardless of political affiliation or voting habits, this is a case of government agencies breaking Federal law, encouraging/coercing citizens to break laws, and it has resulted (and will continue to result) in numerous violent deaths. Keep the fire burning! Write your elected officials! Tell them how you feel! The truth needs to come out and it seems clear that will only happen if the citizens of this country continue to demand it.
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ltc444 wrote:
Fox news is reporting that Kevin O' Reilley, Former NSC Staffer who recieved copies of the Phoenix Batf SAC weekly updates on F&F, has agreed to testify telephonically. The agreement is conditioned upon the White House agreeing to allow the testimony. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...t-and-furious/ O'Reilley is currently working for the State Department in Iraq. His reassignment is reported to have occurred suddenly just prior to supenas being served. ltc444 is offline Report Post _________________________________________- On historical note, Mr. O'Reilley's reassignment sounds suspiciously like then NYC Mayor William O'Dwyer being rushed off to Mexico, as the then newly appointed U.S. Ambassador. |
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Daugherty16 wrote, among other comments:
Regardless of political affiliation or voting habits, this is a case of government agencies breaking Federal law, encouraging/coercing citizens to break laws, and it has resulted (and will continue to result) in numerous violent deaths. ________________________________________________________________ Reads like about the best description of Operation Fast and Furious that I've to date come on. |
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The video is gone from the above link concerning Kevin O' Reilley, Former NSC Staffer. Was this the video ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQl5U...1&feature=plcp The reporter gets to the gist of it - really zeroing in on Kevin O' Reilley now, beleiving that he may have talked to President Barack Obama about Fast & Furious. Congressman Darrell Issa acknowledges that privledged communications might be involved. But I beleive that what Issa could be aiming for here is to force the president to invoke executive privledge. |
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Tom, if the administration's end game was a presumptive win in this case, I'd go along with your reasoning. But that isn't how I read it. A victory for them is just getting to the November election without sustaining a crippling injury - so that's why we are seeing the kick the can down the road, rope-a-dope strategy they've been extremely successful with for over a year now. They have only seven months to go, and as far as I can tell, haven't played out their last delaying action just yet, because the R's haven't pursued this vigorously enough to force them to do so. So we have the attack chihuahuas Issa and Grassley mightily straining at the end of their chains with no hope of ever being allowed to take anything more than tiny nips from the ankles of the administration.
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At some point every house of cards tumbles... Some people crack under pressure and others lash out... I think this probably does go all the way to the top.. in fact I would be more surprised if it didn’t...
The one thing for sure I have learned on the TFL is that anti gunner beliefs are less politics and more some sort of mad theology. It has little to do with thought out reasoning and more to do with an appeal to emotions over logic. It doesnt matter one bit to the anti's that the right to bear arms is a guarnteed civil right of lawful citizens, they seek to choke it from citizens in every avenue and venue possible and by any means. In this case at some point I do believe the light of truth will get to the heart of Fast and Felonious along with many other dark deeds.
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Which, in the eyes of the general public, would be an admission of guilt. Of course, that cheapens the entire issue and the underlying tragedy, but that's the way things go in politics.
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Tom, if the administration's end game was a presumptive win in this case, I'd go along with your reasoning. But that isn't how I read it. A victory for them is just getting to the November election without sustaining a crippling injury - so that's why we are seeing the kick the can down the road, rope-a-dope strategy they've been extremely successful with for over a year now. They have only seven months to go, and as far as I can tell, haven't played out their last delaying action just yet, because the R's haven't pursued this vigorously enough to force them to do so. So we have the attack chihuahuas Issa and Grassley mightily straining at the end of their chains with no hope of ever being allowed to take anything more than tiny nips from the ankles of the administration. ________________________________________________________________ At the risk of coming off "political", regarding the above post, I have, from time to time wondered, and inquired here as to how come/why it seems as if The Republican Leadership has allowed the administration screw-up that is Operation Fast and Furious lie fallow? I wonder still. |
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I guess this is what $720 Million buys you...
Mexican President Calderon calls for assault weapon ban in US:
http://www.stripes.com/news/americas...in-us-1.173417 720 million in foriegn aid lets you buy a case of amnesia for the Mexican President - completely forgetting that the most "intense" violence suffered by Mexico occured when the BATFE was not only allowing hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of weapons to cross into Mexico - but they were actually directly responsible for moving massive numbers of weapons into the drug cartel's hands. It was like BATFE were drug pushers - they were weapons pushers ! Not only does the 720 mil buy you a convienient case of amnesia to forget about Fast & Furious - but it also gets you a willing partner to push the agenda that Fast & Furious was originally intended to bolster. |
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^^^Calderon needs to keep on Obama's good side (aid to Pemex, for example), and needs to paint the US as a source of trouble so the gross ineptitude/corruption of Mexican government(s) might be overlooked. Mexico also wants to join, as does Canada, another free trade group which the US belongs to and which, for some unaccountable reason, the US is blocking. The Canadians are talking about selling us energy at world prices instead of with a NAFTA discount as retaliation, while Calderon apparently thinks licking the boot is a fruitful path.
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from CountZero's post 2116:
I guess this is what $720 Million buys you... Mexican President Calderon calls for assault weapon ban in US: ------------------------------------------- I don't off hand know where the $720 million number comes from, but perhaps re President Calderon's seeking a U.S, ban on "assault weapons" and his references to a redo of "the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban", which didn't ban or otherwise effect Assault Weapon #1, perhaps someone might take the trouble to: 1. Acquaint him with existing, still in force U.S. law, law that goes back to 1934, otherwise known as The National Firearms Act of 1934. 2. Let the man in on a small secret, that being that "assault weapons" are "selective fire weapons, chambered for intermediate power cartridges", a type of firearm that is not generally available on the civilian market in this country, a type of weapon that is not available via the local gun shop or sporting goods store. 3. Of course, it's likely that Calderon is fully aware of the above, but that he is in cahoots with our anti gun, anti gun rights president, or has been otherwise charmed by the force of Obama's personality and wit. Either way, he does his country, Mexico, no great service re the sad songs that he sings. |
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One thing when considering Calderon, deals, and timing....
Mexico's President gets a single 6 year term, he's ineligible for re-election, and the election is July 1st 2012.
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No politician would allow this to affect them.
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Well, I wrote to my representative and Congressman Issa awhile ago
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If 20 or 30 members here had a Senator or two and a Congressman or three in their pockets, something might get accomplished in this regards. Possibly.
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There's a new book about F&F due to be released April 16. It looks interesting and hopefully will generate media interest.
Link to article about the new book: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50807 Link to Amazon page to order the book: http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Furious-B...4362570&sr=1-1
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At least we now know where Katie Pavlich has been and why there have been no real stories from her.
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I made a point of writing Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. I ask him why the atorney generasl and the homeland security director can outright lie to congress and not be prosecuted. I asked him what he intended to do about it and demanded a reply, Not a standard bs reply, but an answer with what direction this was going.
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