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View Poll Results: Pump or Semi-auto home defense shotgun? | |||
Semi-auto | 80 | 18.10% | |
Pump | 362 | 81.90% | |
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February 19, 2006, 06:26 PM | #51 |
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I favor a 870 Wingmaster pump, with 2 shot mag extension and a 20 inch riflesighted barrel. This is as foolproof as it gets. I have it stuffed wtih 00 Buck, and carry 5 slugs in a butt cuff.
Yeah, I know that there is a school of thought that favors birdshot, but golly, what ya gonna do when conditions are not optimal for that? Recently, a guard in Miami was shot at close range with a 12Ga and #6's. He is alive and well today.
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February 21, 2006, 06:35 PM | #52 |
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I'd say that though I myself prefer a pump action shotgun. ( my 590-a1 ). I still find that some people find the length of the shotgun in combination with the need to pump it, a bit intimidating. In this I see a need for the use of semi autos for self defense roles. If you find the right ammo to gun combo, then this would be a wise alternative. I prefer pumps, do to the reliability of shooting various ammo. This can easily be a moot point for others who prefer not to have to pump( may seem a bit unweildly to small statured person's, perhap some women) but still want the powerful multi shot repeating 12 gauge, especially in a short barrel. They would just need to find good self defense ammunition that fires reliably (and practice shooting) and they would be set.
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February 21, 2006, 11:44 PM | #53 |
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It's running a consistent 79%/21%.
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March 4, 2006, 12:07 AM | #54 |
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Pump, for the simplicity. Just less to go wrong. Nothing wrong with either. I just like to eliminate as many negative outcomes as possible. I have rails on mine, but haven't added any tacticool stuff to it. Another thing to get in the way. Toyed with the idea of a tacticool light, but all I need is for the wire from the pressure switch to come off and snag me up when it counts.
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March 4, 2006, 02:03 AM | #55 |
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Winchester Defender, Nice gun BUCKMARK but what is it doing in the dirt?
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March 4, 2006, 02:24 AM | #56 |
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Remington 870 Police / 8 round choat mag. Still need to put a Surefire on it, though.
The comment about "What could be scarier to a bad guy than the sound of a shotgun pump being racked in the dark?" reminded me of an instance, as a young LEO in the mid-70s. I was partnered up with a TO and we happened upon an open back door at a motorcycle shop. Walked around the bldg and saw the BG stuffing tools into his pockets. Partner kicked the door and racked one into the chamber of his issue 870. Even before he could bellow "Freeze", we saw the leg of the BG's jeans go from faded blue back to indigo. Hindsight made me think about the things my trainer could have done better (e.g., wait for backup, split up front/rear, etc.) but I'll never forget how proud I was to keep my game face and not fall into hysterics at the sight of the instant color change of the dude's jeans.
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March 6, 2006, 11:47 AM | #57 |
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OO Buck
Would anyone know the effective range of OO buck from a 12 gauge, 18" barrel would be? Never mind found something close.
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March 6, 2006, 03:26 PM | #58 |
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Remington 870 Express Magnum 21"
Turkey or Bad Guy... It doesn't make much difference to 3" 00 X 15 buckshot...
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March 6, 2006, 05:09 PM | #59 |
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My home defense shotgun is my only shotgun for now. The Remington 870.... heard nothing but positive things about it, plus they're pretty inexpensive. The awesome sound of the action being racked is music to my ears, but bad news for the person who had the nerve to force their way into my home.
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March 6, 2006, 10:44 PM | #60 |
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I keep an 870 express with the stock 28" vent rib and an elastic shell holder on the buttstock. I'd like a shorter barrel, maybe a tactical light and a mag extension. However, I fear that if I ended up having to use it in a defense situation, no matter how legitamate, there would be a lot more legal BS to deal with if I were the gun nut with a tactical shotgun just waiting for some young punk to break into my house rather than some guy lucky enough to grab the 'ol huntin gun. Maybe this is just my dystopian paranoia.
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March 7, 2006, 12:07 AM | #61 |
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Would it change the poll if they were the same price? Good auto's can easily cost over twice as much as a good pump.
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March 7, 2006, 01:53 AM | #62 |
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I've got a Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump. I like the reliability of a manual action, I've always prefered pumps. Mine has the 18.5" defense barrel, loaded with 00 buckshot.
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March 12, 2006, 07:57 PM | #63 |
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double barrel 12 gauge 20 inch barrels with exposed hammers
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March 12, 2006, 07:57 PM | #64 |
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double barrel 12 gauge 20 inch barrels with exposed hammers
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March 12, 2006, 08:08 PM | #65 |
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New Haven/Mossberg model 485B
why a bolt action? It's got a detachable mag so I can leave the gun unloaded but have the mag loaded and ready to slap in there at a moment's notice. Not like I'm likely to ever actually have to defend myself here(almost no violent crime in these parts) and if I do one shout ought to be enough |
March 12, 2006, 09:09 PM | #66 |
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Semi for me. Moss. 9200. Keep it loaded up in the tube so I just have to rack the slide to put one in the chamber. To answer the question about wether or not that sound deters a criminal or not....If I am only carrying a hand gun and I also know I have to break in through a narrow point of enrty against the scatter gun I just heard cycle, I may reconsider. Thats just my .02
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March 12, 2006, 10:11 PM | #67 |
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500 Cruiser 20 gauge pump, pistol grip, 8 shot for indoors.
500 Sp Purpose 12 gauge pump, full stock, 8 shot, Trijicon sight for outdoors.
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March 12, 2006, 10:13 PM | #68 |
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Mine's a pump. Rem 870.
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March 16, 2006, 09:49 AM | #69 |
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Wish I had an old Ithaca but the Mossberg 500 fits the bill quite nicely thank you!
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March 16, 2006, 10:36 AM | #70 |
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model 1300 defender from winchester... holds 8 rounds, opens right up :P
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March 16, 2006, 12:23 PM | #71 |
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Remington 870 - 18" barrel, with Knoxx SpecOps stock. Need to get a Surefire for it.
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March 16, 2006, 01:09 PM | #72 |
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Shotguns
A sawed off but over 18" Winchester Mod. 97 pump and a Russki double barreled coach gun, both 12 guage.
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March 16, 2006, 02:17 PM | #73 |
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Couple/few 870's here at casa del 9mm.
BUCKMARK, That's a nice shotty but I'd be worried about bumping that extension off the gun without a clamp. FWIW. Mike
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March 16, 2006, 03:16 PM | #74 |
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Got Two
One's a pump (Mossy 500) and the other is a double-barrel coach gun, both loaded with Hornady TAP 00 buckshot.
Both loaded, w/ rounds in the chambers...if you gain unauthorized entry into my home, I am NOT fooling around with you. What's more, under Okie-Homa law, I don't HAVE to fool around with you, either: 21 O.S. 1289.25.
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March 16, 2006, 03:22 PM | #75 |
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Dozerpilot, I know which military 870 USAF missile crews had...
It intrigued me so much, I couldn't say no when I found the government conversion kit, so I'd have my own.
This one staved off a home invasion robbery attempt at my last assignment in Sacramento, and stays ready at hand for HD purposes to this day. Remington 870Mk1, no short-stroking from this operator, no ammo fussiness, no gas or recoil system jamming. |
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