Drilling/Vierling sub caliber insert origin, Kreighoff?

alloy · December 5, 2010, 08:54 AM

Can anyone tell me if this .22 magnum 12 guage insert was original as a Krieghoff accessory or if it was original to a firearm from maker H. Burgsmuller & Sohne?
Or just an accessory sold alone?

James K · December 5, 2010, 06:15 PM

Krieghoff has a web site with contact info, so I suggest asking them.

Jim

Jim Watson · December 5, 2010, 08:27 PM

I know that Krieghoff does/did offer subcaliber inserts like that but don't know why a Krieghoff accessory would be marked Burgsmuller. I figure it was either furnished with a Burgsmuller gun or sold as a separate item by them.

Neruda · December 6, 2010, 07:53 AM

THere are a couple of sites selling reproductions of Burgsmuller & Sohne catalogues: the first link is 1961, the second from the mid 1920s.
http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/...hp?item_id=131
http://www.germanguns.com/books/R002.html

They may list the insert, but I don't know.

alloy · December 6, 2010, 08:20 AM

I have an email in to them since Thursday(because of pictures), but I figured I might get lucky here before they get a chance to respond. I've been told it's original Krieghoff accessory from the 60's, but I always thought differently(for the reason Jim Watson gave) so the US part of Krieghoff might have to figure it out. We'll see what they say when/if they get back to me.

Thr maker seems to be a machinery company at this point, not sure they can help at all...but .22 mag would be latter half of the century I think.

Neruda · December 6, 2010, 10:30 AM

Burgsmuller & Sohne were making sporting guns since the early 19th century.

Sorry I misread your post as Burgsmuller & Sohne had always been a machine company

December 6, 2010, 10:30 AM	#6
Neruda Member Join Date: February 28, 2006 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 79	Burgsmuller & Sohne were making sporting guns since the early 19th century. Sorry I misread your post as Burgsmuller & Sohne had always been a machine company Last edited by Neruda; December 6, 2010 at 10:41 AM.

December 5, 2010, 06:15 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Krieghoff has a web site with contact info, so I suggest asking them. Jim

December 5, 2010, 08:27 PM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	I know that Krieghoff does/did offer subcaliber inserts like that but don't know why a Krieghoff accessory would be marked Burgsmuller. I figure it was either furnished with a Burgsmuller gun or sold as a separate item by them.

December 6, 2010, 07:53 AM	#4
Neruda Member Join Date: February 28, 2006 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 79	THere are a couple of sites selling reproductions of Burgsmuller & Sohne catalogues: the first link is 1961, the second from the mid 1920s. http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/...hp?item_id=131 http://www.germanguns.com/books/R002.html They may list the insert, but I don't know.