IO Inc STG-2000 ... Any experience with these.

LouPran · February 15, 2010, 04:10 PM

My son and I just ordered a couple of these American Made AK's.

The few articles I've read about them all seem to feel it's a very well made and accurate rifle. Supposedly, now completely manufactured in America and using a much better AR style match grade barrel.

Any experiences with these rifles good or bad?

Thanks for any replies!

LouPran · February 15, 2010, 07:32 PM

No opinions what soever here on this fairly new AK platform?

Webologist · February 15, 2010, 07:41 PM

I'll let you know. I just ordered one myself. I'll be taking it to the range on the 27th...

Regards,
-w

tju1973 · February 15, 2010, 07:46 PM

Based loosly on the Eat German AK that was quickly phased out with the Reunification of Germany I believe-- A guy on one of my other forums bought one a couple of years ago, and it shot just as well as any other AK-- I wish I would have gotten one then, as they were around $300 or so-- this was a year or so before the panic...

LouPran · February 16, 2010, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Webologist
I'll let you know...
I'll let you know. I just ordered one myself. I'll be taking it to the range on the 27th...

Regards,
-w

Thanks!

I guess I'll have to write something up on them as well. We're going to see ours in a week or two.

The reviews I've read so far, are all very favorable, but I believe they're all for the NON USA Made ones.

LouPran · February 16, 2010, 10:53 AM

Quote:

tju1973

Based loosly on the Eat German AK that was quickly phased out with the Reunification of Germany I believe-- A guy on one of my other forums bought one a couple of years ago, and it shot just as well as any other AK-- I wish I would have gotten one then, as they were around $300 or so-- this was a year or so before the panic...

They're still very affordable. Especially considering they're improved (hopefully) and now made in the USA.

Not sure on policy here for stating prices so I'll make it vague but, we paid less than $550 for each of ours through an FFL friend, all fees included. To me, that's a bargain when I consider I've got more money in the Scope on my AR15. Shoot, I have more money in my Ruger 10.22 (with modded stock, barrel, trigger,scope and other goodies attached of course)

shooter_john · February 16, 2010, 11:38 AM

Do you have a link or anything on where someone might find these for sale?

TRguy · February 16, 2010, 11:41 AM

http://www.ioinc.us/our-products

LouPran · February 16, 2010, 06:57 PM

You're going to have to go through an FFL who will order direct from http://www.royaltigerimports.com/ ... at least that's how ours is being gotten.

I'm pretty excited to test out one of these. Reviews I've read say these new USA AK's have all the reliability regardless of abuse of an AK with the accuracy of an AR ... in the 7.62 round. That's a great combo if true.

Bart Noir · February 17, 2010, 02:47 PM

The pistol grip is very comfortable and I would like to buy one or two for my AKs. I'll have to check to see if they are sold as parts.

But that short sight radius will hurt long-range accuracy. OK stop laughing, sometimes people like to actually aim the AK and hit something.

Bart Noir

Willie D · February 17, 2010, 03:14 PM

Maybe these have improved. The older ones were fairly ratty Romanian parts guns.

In person the furniture had rough mold edges and was pretty chintzy. Again, maybe these newer ones are better although these pictures show pretty obvious Photoshop touchup.

Good luck!

LouPran · February 17, 2010, 07:46 PM

I'll give an honest assessment when I get one. If it's junk I'll say so.

The FFL friend of ours seems to think they're great. (The USA built ones.)

The site radius is short, no doubt. But IMO it's more of a battle sight back up. We ordered side mount scope mounts and for long range will install appropriate scopes.

Bart Noir · February 18, 2010, 02:50 PM

I typed "sight radius", and meant that.

A "site radius" might be the distance from one internet website to another, maybe?

And yeah, with some sort of optics the iron sights can be considered as only backup rifle sights. But many optics, on side mounts or other mounts, sit too high above the weapon. The balance is certainly not improved (it can feel top-heavy) and a shooter can find that the stock is now too low to rest the cheek against. Again, that makes for poor accuracy.

But mileages do vary and people do add cheek pieces on the stock. So this rifle still interests me.

Bart Noir

LouPran · February 19, 2010, 06:48 PM

I don't know what happened there. I wasn't trying to point out sight radius and ended up spelling it wrong myself. Don't take any offense. None was intended.

Willie D · February 26, 2010, 10:03 PM

Just saw one of these in person and I have to admit, they look nicer than the older models. Plastic no longer looks like shiny junk.

1kwikvdub503 · February 27, 2010, 03:34 AM

I'm going to die if I see this at the gun show here. It's the most beautifullest stock AK I've seen.

Balog · March 19, 2010, 04:08 PM

I'd be interested in hearing a range report myself.

pbratton · March 19, 2010, 04:49 PM

I just got an I.O. Inc AKM-47C last week.

Took it out of the box, field stripped it, cleaned it, lightly lubbed, re-assembled.

At the range I started with a box of WWB ammo and then shifted to some Russian HP ammo.

I was putting rounds into a 9" paper plate at 50 yards with little effort. If I took my time, I stayed within a 2" orange dot.

No jams, no failures to feed.

It's a nice tight little AK.

LouPran · March 19, 2010, 07:21 PM

I've got two of them ... still waiting on the scope mounts that attach to the billet side mounts.

Here they are with aftermarket stocks already installed...

And here's one with the stock, grip replaced and I custom modified the foregrip with left and right picatinnys ...

I haven't gotten them to the range yet, but one thing I've found is zeroing in the iron sights, is NOT going to happen. They're so far off as to be impossible to zero in with my SLlite150 bore sighter ... Maybe at 100 yds they can be sighted in and hopefully sighting in a scope will not be a problem. But sighting them in at 25yds is NOT gonna happen.

The front sight cannot be screwed down far enough to zero.

uncleneil · March 13, 2015, 10:48 AM

i bought one of these in 2012 and could not be happier i get one inch groups at 100 yards with scope never ftf fte and the plastic mags fit tight no wobble oh and the ammo is russian steel,picked up my low profile scope mount at mississippi auto arms,i also changed out the bird cage that came with it for an ar style that i found online for 15 bucks and works great......

February 15, 2010, 04:10 PM	#1
LouPran Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Location: Buried under record fall of "climate change" Posts: 346	IO Inc STG-2000 ... Any experience with these. My son and I just ordered a couple of these American Made AK's. The few articles I've read about them all seem to feel it's a very well made and accurate rifle. Supposedly, now completely manufactured in America and using a much better AR style match grade barrel. Any experiences with these rifles good or bad? Thanks for any replies! __________________ Aspire to inspire before you expire - the poster formerly known as JP.

February 15, 2010, 07:32 PM	#2
LouPran Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Location: Buried under record fall of "climate change" Posts: 346	No opinions what soever here on this fairly new AK platform? __________________ Aspire to inspire before you expire - the poster formerly known as JP.

February 15, 2010, 07:41 PM	#3
Webologist Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 45	I'll let you know... I'll let you know. I just ordered one myself. I'll be taking it to the range on the 27th... Regards, -w

February 16, 2010, 11:41 AM	#8
TRguy Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2008 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 682	http://www.ioinc.us/our-products __________________ Two is One, One is None

February 16, 2010, 06:57 PM	#9
LouPran Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Location: Buried under record fall of "climate change" Posts: 346	You're going to have to go through an FFL who will order direct from http://www.royaltigerimports.com/ ... at least that's how ours is being gotten. I'm pretty excited to test out one of these. Reviews I've read say these new USA AK's have all the reliability regardless of abuse of an AK with the accuracy of an AR ... in the 7.62 round. That's a great combo if true. __________________ Aspire to inspire before you expire - the poster formerly known as JP.

February 15, 2010, 07:46 PM	#4
tju1973 Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2008 Posts: 111	Based loosly on the Eat German AK that was quickly phased out with the Reunification of Germany I believe-- A guy on one of my other forums bought one a couple of years ago, and it shot just as well as any other AK-- I wish I would have gotten one then, as they were around $300 or so-- this was a year or so before the panic...

February 16, 2010, 11:38 AM	#7
shooter_john Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2002 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 1,472	Do you have a link or anything on where someone might find these for sale?

February 17, 2010, 02:47 PM	#10
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	The pistol grip is very comfortable and I would like to buy one or two for my AKs. I'll have to check to see if they are sold as parts. But that short sight radius will hurt long-range accuracy. OK stop laughing, sometimes people like to actually aim the AK and hit something. Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

February 17, 2010, 03:14 PM	#11
Willie D Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Posts: 1,149	Maybe these have improved. The older ones were fairly ratty Romanian parts guns. In person the furniture had rough mold edges and was pretty chintzy. Again, maybe these newer ones are better although these pictures show pretty obvious Photoshop touchup. Good luck!

February 17, 2010, 07:46 PM	#12
LouPran Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Location: Buried under record fall of "climate change" Posts: 346	I'll give an honest assessment when I get one. If it's junk I'll say so. The FFL friend of ours seems to think they're great. (The USA built ones.) The site radius is short, no doubt. But IMO it's more of a battle sight back up. We ordered side mount scope mounts and for long range will install appropriate scopes. __________________ Aspire to inspire before you expire - the poster formerly known as JP.

February 18, 2010, 02:50 PM	#13
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	I typed "sight radius", and meant that. A "site radius" might be the distance from one internet website to another, maybe? And yeah, with some sort of optics the iron sights can be considered as only backup rifle sights. But many optics, on side mounts or other mounts, sit too high above the weapon. The balance is certainly not improved (it can feel top-heavy) and a shooter can find that the stock is now too low to rest the cheek against. Again, that makes for poor accuracy. But mileages do vary and people do add cheek pieces on the stock. So this rifle still interests me. Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

February 19, 2010, 06:48 PM	#14
LouPran Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Location: Buried under record fall of "climate change" Posts: 346	I don't know what happened there. I wasn't trying to point out sight radius and ended up spelling it wrong myself. Don't take any offense. None was intended. __________________ Aspire to inspire before you expire - the poster formerly known as JP.

February 26, 2010, 10:03 PM	#15
Willie D Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Posts: 1,149	Just saw one of these in person and I have to admit, they look nicer than the older models. Plastic no longer looks like shiny junk.

February 27, 2010, 03:34 AM	#16
1kwikvdub503 Member Join Date: February 20, 2010 Posts: 15	I'm going to die if I see this at the gun show here. It's the most beautifullest stock AK I've seen.

March 19, 2010, 04:08 PM	#17
Balog Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Posts: 259	I'd be interested in hearing a range report myself.

March 19, 2010, 04:49 PM	#18
pbratton Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2007 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Posts: 171	I just got an I.O. Inc AKM-47C last week. Took it out of the box, field stripped it, cleaned it, lightly lubbed, re-assembled. At the range I started with a box of WWB ammo and then shifted to some Russian HP ammo. I was putting rounds into a 9" paper plate at 50 yards with little effort. If I took my time, I stayed within a 2" orange dot. No jams, no failures to feed. It's a nice tight little AK.

March 19, 2010, 07:21 PM	#19
LouPran Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Location: Buried under record fall of "climate change" Posts: 346	I've got two of them ... still waiting on the scope mounts that attach to the billet side mounts. Here they are with aftermarket stocks already installed... And here's one with the stock, grip replaced and I custom modified the foregrip with left and right picatinnys ... I haven't gotten them to the range yet, but one thing I've found is zeroing in the iron sights, is NOT going to happen. They're so far off as to be impossible to zero in with my SLlite150 bore sighter ... Maybe at 100 yds they can be sighted in and hopefully sighting in a scope will not be a problem. But sighting them in at 25yds is NOT gonna happen. The front sight cannot be screwed down far enough to zero. __________________ Aspire to inspire before you expire - the poster formerly known as JP.

March 13, 2015, 10:48 AM	#20
uncleneil Junior Member Join Date: December 25, 2013 Posts: 1	stg 2000c i bought one of these in 2012 and could not be happier i get one inch groups at 100 yards with scope never ftf fte and the plastic mags fit tight no wobble oh and the ammo is russian steel,picked up my low profile scope mount at mississippi auto arms,i also changed out the bird cage that came with it for an ar style that i found online for 15 bucks and works great......