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March 6, 2013, 12:33 AM | #1 |
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best way to remove berdan primers?
I have a dozen berdan primed 9x18 steel (fired) cases that I want to turn into some 9mm Makarov snap caps. I made a few with brass cases last year but they didn't hold up real well. I'm hoping the steel will last longer.
What's a good way to get the old primers out? There isn't a center flash hole so my decapping die won't do it. Any other tips for producing home-made snap caps would be appreciated too.
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March 6, 2013, 12:49 AM | #2 |
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There is a tool but for a few cases it isn't worth it. The easy way is to get a pointed rod (like an ice pick or just a steel rod ground to a point), clamp a loading die into a vise upside down, drop the case in, base up, and drive the point of the tool into the primer dent sideways. Then just pry up and the primer will pop out.
I suggest filling the primer pocket with silicone glue, which makes a pretty good rubber cushion. For snap caps with Boxer primed cases, I once bought four 18" long nylon rods, two each in each primer size. When I need a snap cap, I just cut a piece of rod and glue it into the primver pocket of a fired case. That was 20 years ago and I have used about six inches of each size, so I figure I am good for snap caps for a while. Jim |
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Thanks Jim!
I put silicone caulk in the primer pockets of last year's batch. I was thinking about trying some with hot-melt glue this time, or maybe hot-melt glue over a thin bed of silicone. I'll have to go through my collection of odd & ends to see if I have anything resembling a nylon rod...
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Re: best way to remove berdan primers?
Can't you just keep the spent primer in,?
Saw a YouTube where the Guy drills a hole in a piece of wood just big enough fir the primer. Then another hole just big enough for the case but not all the way thru. Fill the case with water. Place in hole. Insert a rod that fits nicely in the case. Give it a whack. Hydraulics. |
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March 6, 2013, 05:37 AM | #6 |
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Berdan Primers
Berdan primed cases go into the round file.
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if you are making snap caps, the original case ( flash holes ) are not important... drill out the primer... for that matter, drill through the whole case... this will allow you to over fill the primer pocket, & allow a blob of silicone to go into the case, giving it more support, & more adhesion to the case... they should last longer... ( I'd recommend a good cleaning of the case & primer pocket, to give as much clean surface for the silicone as possible )
BTW... I've seen the hydrolic method work well... use a shell holder to allow space under the case for the primer to pop out, even a tight fitting dowel will work...
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Spent primers don't work as snapcaps. They quickly mash down and won't spring back. After a few dry fires, it's as if you're not using anything at all.
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Another approach...
Darth Null--You do know that you can buy ready-made snap caps at yr LGS?? If not there, then order from Brownell's. Not very expensive, and FAR less fooling around than making snap caps out of Berdan primed cases.
I know that some guys just like doing things "the hard way," but really...
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I have heard of snap caps made by cutting down a small pencil eraser and fitting in the primer pocket of spent shells. And yes, you can buy them or you can just make them yourself and save some $$.
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Thanks for the tips!
BTW... I have purchased snap caps for several pistol calibers that I shoot but I have not found any available in 9x18 Makarov. I am doing more dry fire practice lately due to lack of good weather (it's winter in Minnesota and brass is not easy to find in the snow), and lack of small pistol primers. This too shall pass...
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If you have a lee die, simply break the decapping pin on the bottom. Fill the brass with water, and quickly force it up the die. Yes you have to break out the single action press
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It works I've done it before with several 308 cases. You can also see this video by Iraqveteran8888 that does the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQNDgjcgofY Edit: My bad I thought you guy wanted to remove primers from a rifle cartridge.
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No problem. I understand what you were doing now.
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