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August 26, 2014, 10:05 AM | #26 | |
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Any S&W centerfire pistol with a 4-digit model number, or any subcompact with a "CS" prefix, is a 3rd-gen. 1st-gen model numbers are normally 2-digit, and all 2nd-gen models have 3 digits; however, S&W offered a 3rd-gen "Value Series" line consisting of the 410, 410S, 411 (rare), 457, 908, 908S, 909 (rare), 910, 910S, and 915, along with a handful of Performance Center models, the 845, 945, and 952. 3rd-gen front sight fits in a dovetail rather than being integral with the slide. All 3rd-gen RH-side decocker/safety levers attach with a subtle-looking flush-fit tab; if it's attached with a huge (and ugly!) Philips or Allen-head screw, the gun is a 2nd-gen. However, not all 3rd-gen and 2nd-gen pistols have ambi decocker/safeties, and tab attachment was also used on very late 2nd-gen guns. All DAO models, 10mm Auto or .40S&W models, subcompact "CS" or "Chief's Special" models (see above), pistols with a SIG-style frame decocker, factory 9mm single-stack compacts, and mid-size or compact .45's are 3rd-gen. [EDIT] To put this another way, all 1st and 2nd-gen Smiths are DA/SA or SAO with slide-mounted safety levers; the first generation consisted solely of full-size 9mm's and a single .38Spl target model (the 52A), while the second generation saw the introduction of double-stack 9mm compacts and full-size .45's. Any other chambering and/or configuration is most likely a 3rd-gen pistol; a few aftermarket conversions exist, notably cut-down 1st-gen M39-based 9mm compacts, but these are rare.
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August 26, 2014, 12:40 PM | #27 |
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Ah, well...now I know why I have been so confused!!
Thanks for the explanation...I doubt I will remember any of it... I do then appear to have a 3rd gen Chief Special (CS9) which is a very nice piece, so I see the attraction. |
August 26, 2014, 02:10 PM | #28 | |
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The easiest things to remember are the grips and the front sight. Other than the Performance Center models, a 3rd-gen will have a one-piece plastic wraparound grip, or a full-wraparound aftermarket replacement. All 3rd-gens have a dovetailed front sight. A 1st or 2nd-gen pistol will have separate grip panels with a metal backstrap, and an integral front sight. As I wrote in the previous post, a wraparound Pachmayr grip was available (and popular) for the earlier guns, but it doesn't completely cover the metal backstrap; this is obvious on close inspection. It also has a pair of screw holes per side, whereas 3rd-gen grips attach with a pin or one screw at the lower corner. Oh yeah, another minor difference is the orange dot that is uncovered by the LH decocker/safety lever when it's in the FIRE position. On a 2nd-gen, it will be on the slide; on a 3rd-gen, it's on the frame. The trouble is that not all 2nd-gens have the dot.
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August 26, 2014, 02:21 PM | #29 | |
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I will take issue with this:
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However, one tip I'll add to the above quoted text that worked well for me before I began learning many of the intricacies that Chris has explained so well in his posts was quite simply that on the all the 1st Gen and 2nd Gen guns, you can easily see, with even casual observance, the stamped metal part on the rearmost and top of the frame, left side, DIRECTLY under the manual safety. This small piece interacts with the slide stop to hold it in place and while it is present on all 1st, 2nd & 3rd Gens, you simply cannot see it on any of the 3rd Gen pistols. Because of this, I had always thought the 3rd Gens did away with the little piece. In fact, it was merely the 3rd Gen grip that covered the piece, it is still there and you simply can't see it because of the completely redesigned one-piece grip. For me, for a long time, spotting that little piece was the quick-clue that it was NOT a 3rd Gen pistol.
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August 26, 2014, 07:34 PM | #30 |
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Got a CS45 myself...LOTS of fun!!
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August 26, 2014, 10:32 PM | #31 |
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That is a good price for a 5906 in very good condition. I have one already but if I came across another like you have described for that price, I would buy it. Not sure what I would do with two lol, but it is a nice gun.
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August 26, 2014, 11:42 PM | #32 |
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I hate my 6906 if that's any indication.. lol
Not to say it's not a good handgun, the trigger pull just sucks IMHO. I'm a fan of a nice clean, smooth, noticeable brake when pulling the trigger. Most DA/SA guns don't have it for me. It's like you pass a line and the hammer drops. Other than the CZ 75 i've yet to hold and pull one i liked. Lots of people love them though.
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