Glock 18, best gun Glock ever made?

YeagerTheKid · February 5, 2010, 06:01 AM

In a past thread i had another member tell me that the Glock 18 was not the best gun glock has ever made. What do you think? Yes i know that its probably not neccesary that a pistol can spit out a 33 round clip in aprox. 2 sec, I said probably, but what if it need's to? The facts
-It's a pistol, easy to carry and conceal
-It's fully auto, 33 round in 2 sec
-It has a semi-auto setting if fully isnt needed
-It's used by some of Glock's pro-shooter's
-IT'S A FULLY AUTO PISTOL!

I'm not trying to make anyone mad, just want to know what everyone else thinks.

theaceco · February 5, 2010, 06:24 AM

Not the best Glock ever made.

It's just impractical. Definitely not easy to conceal a pistol with a 33 round mag sticking out of it. All glocks have been used at one time or another by Glock pro shooters.

The only thing that is has is the cool factor. That, and if you're Morpheus, you will likely use it to blow up an escalade with albino twins in it.

Skans · February 5, 2010, 09:16 AM

It's just a full-auto Glock 17. I do think that the Glock 17 is the best gun that Glock makes, so I guess the Glock 18 is at least as good.

Folks like to say that the Glock 18 has no purpose. But, the truth is that none of us have every had the opportunity to train with one, let alone shoot one. I suppose if you have 10 drop-free mags strapped to you and you are well trained in shooting the full-auto glock, it may be a very practical weapon.

Al Thompson · February 5, 2010, 11:26 AM

Really sort of a moot point as so few (any?) are transferable.

jmorris · February 5, 2010, 12:24 PM

I've shot a full auto 34 with a stock, quite the bullet hose and a lot lighter than an m10/11. Best, at what?

Maser · February 5, 2010, 12:49 PM

To be honest, I don't get why so many folks think the Glock is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm not knocking Glocks because I do love the G26. It's just that I don't feel it's the best.

Now, as for the G18. What can I say. The overly short action makes it a true lead hose. I don't feel they are practical firing in FA unless it has a stock or foregrip or you have good trigger control and burst fire. Fun? Yes. Practical? No.

Glock-19 · February 5, 2010, 01:08 PM

You can turn any Glock into full auto with a sear and a $200 ATF tax stamp.

Maser · February 5, 2010, 01:43 PM

If the sear and gun is pre-86. Or you are a Class II Manufacturer.

FALacy · February 5, 2010, 03:20 PM

I've shot a Glock 18. It was not the least bit controllable. The full auto feature serves no purpose.

Venom1956 · February 5, 2010, 06:45 PM

its mag not clip. No if full auto is your goal you'd be better served with a SMG of some sort.

Also any glock with the 33 round mag is anything but concealable..

Hkmp5sd · February 5, 2010, 06:49 PM

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You can turn any Glock into full auto with a sear and a $200 ATF tax stamp.

If it was that simple, I'd have one.

4INCHSMITH · February 5, 2010, 07:27 PM

I'd rather have a 93r, at least that has a foregrip, and the 3rnd burst seems like it would be a bit more controlable. I say this with absolutely no experience of course.

KChen986 · February 5, 2010, 08:49 PM

You can't miss fast enough, and with the G18, unless you need some up close firepower, a full auto pistol without a butt stock seems impractical. Fire superiority is not achieved just by placing rounds down range, but is achieved by placing effective rounds down range.

Willie Lowman · February 5, 2010, 08:55 PM

The chief of police in my town has one. I think it may be a bit of a holster trophy.

It seems to me that the purpose of the G18 is lost on some of the posters here. It isn't an MP5 or Uzi. It's a PDW. A handgun that will put five rounds to the COM of a target that is at a conversational distance. Five rounds faster than most could pull off a double tap. It is a weapon for making lots of holes up close and personal, at that it excels.

Best Glock ever? I dunno about that. Useless? I dunno about that either.

Hkmp5sd · February 5, 2010, 09:13 PM

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a full auto pistol without a butt stock seems impractical.

Things are not always what they seem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRhxKB0m2U

RychenCop · February 5, 2010, 09:54 PM

i shot a 18 about 12 years ago. full auto it's worthless, but if you learn to control it (3 or 4 round bursts) then it certainly has it's +'s. fun nonetheless.

kozak6 · February 5, 2010, 11:52 PM

Glock 18, the best Glock? The best Glock for what?

Is it still the best if there probably isn't a transferable one in the USA?

Are there even any transferable converted Glock 17's?

And it's still unergonomic.

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That, and if you're Morpheus

is probably the only way you are going to get to own one.

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I'd rather have a 93r, at least that has a foregrip, and the 3rnd burst seems like it would be a bit more controlable.

Yeah, there's at least some transferable converted Taurus versions.

XD Gunner · February 6, 2010, 12:05 AM

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In a past thread i had another member tell me that the Glock 18 was not the best gun glock has ever made. What do you think? Yes i know that its probably not neccesary that a pistol can spit out a 33 round clip in aprox. 2 sec, I said probably, but what if it need's to? The facts
-It's a pistol, easy to carry and conceal
-It's fully auto, 33 round in 2 sec
-It has a semi-auto setting if fully isnt needed
-It's used by some of Glock's pro-shooter's
-IT'S A FULLY AUTO PISTOL!

It's a tactically useless extra-cost Glock 17. How is it better? It has a "fun button?"

Venom1956 · February 6, 2010, 01:51 AM

Plus unless you kept it on FA in holster... I would be impressed to watch someone flip the selector in order to go FA in a close confrontation.

grymph · February 6, 2010, 02:05 AM

Someone is eventually gonna post this reply. Might as well be me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg...eature=related

mrnkc130 · February 6, 2010, 02:06 AM

I disagree that it is worthless, as Willie Lowman said it has its purpose. Its not an SMG and not meant to be used like one. As a personal defense weapon I see where it could be very usefull.

I have never shot one but I've seen plenty of videos. The later model one with the ported barrel appears to be very controllable.

Best Glock ever? not sure about that, IIRC its is pretty much the same as any other Glock minus the FA selector switch.

IF I had the choice to have any Glock I wanted, it would be the Glock 18. I think if the BATF came up to just about anyone and said "Hey, we're gonna let you have what ever glock you want just this one time" I bet everyone would pick the Glock 18, even if it was just because they could actually buy any other model but the 18 is pretty much off limits. Would that qaulify it as the best? maybe...

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It's just impractical. Definitely not easy to conceal a pistol with a 33 round mag sticking out of it.

I dont think it was designed to be concealed with that magazine....

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I've shot a Glock 18. It was not the least bit controllable. The full auto feature serves no purpose.

Maybe you just aren't very good with the gun because you only rented it and shot it once? Thats a pretty absolute statement, and if it were true then why is there a market for them or any other machine pistol?

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You can't miss fast enough, and with the G18, unless you need some up close firepower, a full auto pistol without a butt stock seems impractical. Fire superiority is not achieved just by placing rounds down range, but is achieved by placing effective rounds down range

It's purpose, like most any handgun IS close up firepower. In the kind of situation in which you would need a Glock 18 you're probably not going to be able to get well aimed shots off, the auto function would give you the speed to possibly neutralize multiple assailants, or if you did need well placed shots just dont put it on FA, then you have a full size 9mm pistol like any other.

The gun isn't made to be a medium machine gun people, with all the discussion about what gun is best for what that goes on here how do so many people not see that this gun like all others have specific purposes, this one is suited as a personal defense weapon....jeeeezzzz...

Venom1956 · February 6, 2010, 04:23 AM

yes but he stated having it with the 33 round mag. I was only making that point. if it had a 17 or 19 rounder it would conceal just fine.

Secondly depending where you used it in SD such as in a standard CCW case all those FA rounds that missed your multiple assailants would look really really bad in court... so where did the 17 of those 33 rounds that missed wind up?

I think it serves a purpose but as a SD weapon or PDW their are better options. Just my opinion. God it looks like a hell of alotta fun.

jmorris · February 6, 2010, 09:36 AM

I guess the “uncontrollable” conjecture is from folks who have never shot one. Here is a video of a friends kid shooting one last 4th of July. Practical? No, but then again it’s a machinegun.

http://s664.photobucket.com/albums/v...nt=twm1045.flv

The stock does help and makes it as long as an M16

Venom1956 · February 6, 2010, 11:16 AM

I likes your Toys! that Ruger FA too?

jmorris · February 6, 2010, 11:46 AM

Most of those are others toys the ruger is just a suppresed SBR.

February 5, 2010, 06:01 AM	#1
YeagerTheKid Junior Member Join Date: December 15, 2009 Location: Kansas City,Mo Posts: 8	Glock 18, best gun Glock ever made? In a past thread i had another member tell me that the Glock 18 was not the best gun glock has ever made. What do you think? Yes i know that its probably not neccesary that a pistol can spit out a 33 round clip in aprox. 2 sec, I said probably, but what if it need's to? The facts -It's a pistol, easy to carry and conceal -It's fully auto, 33 round in 2 sec -It has a semi-auto setting if fully isnt needed -It's used by some of Glock's pro-shooter's -IT'S A FULLY AUTO PISTOL! I'm not trying to make anyone mad, just want to know what everyone else thinks. __________________ Favorite quote- " Were all gonna die someday, but if your trying to make it my day, im making it you'rs." -Me

February 5, 2010, 11:26 AM	#4
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,611	Really sort of a moot point as so few (any?) are transferable. __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

February 5, 2010, 01:08 PM	#7
Glock-19 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 186	You can turn any Glock into full auto with a sear and a $200 ATF tax stamp. __________________ "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson NRA Endowment Life Member

February 5, 2010, 06:45 PM	#10
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	its mag not clip. No if full auto is your goal you'd be better served with a SMG of some sort. Also any glock with the 33 round mag is anything but concealable.. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

February 5, 2010, 07:27 PM	#12
4INCHSMITH Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 313	I'd rather have a 93r, at least that has a foregrip, and the 3rnd burst seems like it would be a bit more controlable. I say this with absolutely no experience of course. __________________ "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence, supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without having to fight" -Sun Tzu

February 5, 2010, 06:24 AM	#2
theaceco Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Posts: 37	Not the best Glock ever made. It's just impractical. Definitely not easy to conceal a pistol with a 33 round mag sticking out of it. All glocks have been used at one time or another by Glock pro shooters. The only thing that is has is the cool factor. That, and if you're Morpheus, you will likely use it to blow up an escalade with albino twins in it.

February 5, 2010, 09:16 AM	#3
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	It's just a full-auto Glock 17. I do think that the Glock 17 is the best gun that Glock makes, so I guess the Glock 18 is at least as good. Folks like to say that the Glock 18 has no purpose. But, the truth is that none of us have every had the opportunity to train with one, let alone shoot one. I suppose if you have 10 drop-free mags strapped to you and you are well trained in shooting the full-auto glock, it may be a very practical weapon.

February 5, 2010, 12:24 PM	#5
jmorris Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Posts: 3,077	I've shot a full auto 34 with a stock, quite the bullet hose and a lot lighter than an m10/11. Best, at what?

February 5, 2010, 12:49 PM	#6
Maser Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: Mysterious Cities of Gold Posts: 920	To be honest, I don't get why so many folks think the Glock is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm not knocking Glocks because I do love the G26. It's just that I don't feel it's the best. Now, as for the G18. What can I say. The overly short action makes it a true lead hose. I don't feel they are practical firing in FA unless it has a stock or foregrip or you have good trigger control and burst fire. Fun? Yes. Practical? No.

February 5, 2010, 01:43 PM	#8
Maser Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: Mysterious Cities of Gold Posts: 920	If the sear and gun is pre-86. Or you are a Class II Manufacturer.

February 5, 2010, 03:20 PM	#9
FALacy Junior member Join Date: August 17, 2009 Posts: 205	I've shot a Glock 18. It was not the least bit controllable. The full auto feature serves no purpose.

February 5, 2010, 08:49 PM	#13
KChen986 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Location: Ninja Mall Posts: 818	You can't miss fast enough, and with the G18, unless you need some up close firepower, a full auto pistol without a butt stock seems impractical. Fire superiority is not achieved just by placing rounds down range, but is achieved by placing effective rounds down range. __________________ E Pluribus Unum

February 5, 2010, 08:55 PM	#14
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	The chief of police in my town has one. I think it may be a bit of a holster trophy. It seems to me that the purpose of the G18 is lost on some of the posters here. It isn't an MP5 or Uzi. It's a PDW. A handgun that will put five rounds to the COM of a target that is at a conversational distance. Five rounds faster than most could pull off a double tap. It is a weapon for making lots of holes up close and personal, at that it excels. Best Glock ever? I dunno about that. Useless? I dunno about that either.

February 5, 2010, 09:54 PM	#16
RychenCop Junior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Location: North Augusta,SC Posts: 11	i shot a 18 about 12 years ago. full auto it's worthless, but if you learn to control it (3 or 4 round bursts) then it certainly has it's +'s. fun nonetheless.

February 6, 2010, 01:51 AM	#19
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	Plus unless you kept it on FA in holster... I would be impressed to watch someone flip the selector in order to go FA in a close confrontation. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

February 6, 2010, 02:05 AM	#20
grymph Member Join Date: May 26, 2009 Posts: 19	Safety first Someone is eventually gonna post this reply. Might as well be me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg...eature=related

February 6, 2010, 04:23 AM	#22
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	yes but he stated having it with the 33 round mag. I was only making that point. if it had a 17 or 19 rounder it would conceal just fine. Secondly depending where you used it in SD such as in a standard CCW case all those FA rounds that missed your multiple assailants would look really really bad in court... so where did the 17 of those 33 rounds that missed wind up? I think it serves a purpose but as a SD weapon or PDW their are better options. Just my opinion. God it looks like a hell of alotta fun. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

February 6, 2010, 09:36 AM	#23
jmorris Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Posts: 3,077	I guess the “uncontrollable” conjecture is from folks who have never shot one. Here is a video of a friends kid shooting one last 4th of July. Practical? No, but then again it’s a machinegun. http://s664.photobucket.com/albums/v...nt=twm1045.flv The stock does help and makes it as long as an M16

February 6, 2010, 11:16 AM	#24
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	I likes your Toys! that Ruger FA too? __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

February 6, 2010, 11:46 AM	#25
jmorris Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Posts: 3,077	Most of those are others toys the ruger is just a suppresed SBR.