Let's talk about single-shot .22 rifles,,, - Page 3

Huffmanite · February 18, 2015, 10:11 PM

Have a BSA model 12 martini that shoots quite well for me. Use it with decent results in our private ranges monthly 50 yd open sight 22 rifle competition. With no wind, I can bust a clay pidgeon on the 200 yd bern within 3 shots.

Also own a couple of old Stevens 22 single shots. One is a model 44 falling block and other is a Favorite. A long time ago, the 44 was in England, as it has British proof marks and its bore has been sleeved by A.G. Parker (of Parker-Hale). Shoots pretty decent too.

alfredr · February 19, 2015, 07:17 AM

Does a Savage 24 count? .22/.410, rifle/shotgun, over/under.

aarondhgraham · February 19, 2015, 09:28 AM

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Does a Savage 24 count? .22/.410, rifle/shotgun, over/under.

Heck yes it counts,,,
It's a great little combo gun.

I had one of those many years ago.

I had been bugging my old man for a new .22 rifle,,,
I had an Winchester 1890 in .22 short only,,,
He had been promising me a semi-auto.

So I came home one day and he handed me this used Savage 24,,,
Being the whiney brat I was I snubbed that single-shot.

I did warm up to the gun in time,,,
But I guess Dad didn't think I deserved it.

I went to get the Savage out of my closet and it was gone,,,
I asked Mom if she knew where my rifle was.

She told me that Dad had sold it,,,
He thought I didn't appreciate it very much,,,
So he sold it to a drinking buddy of his to teach me a lesson.

It was ironic because I had grown to really like that rifle,,,
I suppose I should have mentioned that to Dad.

Oh well,,,

Aarond

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dgludwig · February 20, 2015, 06:40 PM

That's what you get for being a "whiney brat"...

markallen · February 21, 2015, 09:21 PM

I have, and still shoot my Dad's Remington 41 P Targetmaster, that he got back in 1936.
It's still the most accurate .22 rifle I have fired.

aarondhgraham · February 22, 2015, 10:55 AM

No joy at the little gun show yesterday,,,
It only had maybe 40 vendors,,,
Only one single-shot rifle.

But it was the cleanest model 67 I have ever seen,,,
Nice dark walnut stock with no dents at all,,,
All of the metal was in very good shape,,,
It had been very well taken care of.

The bore was like a mirror with very clean rifling,,,
But the seller wanted $250.00 for it.

In point of fact it might have been worth that price,,,
It was just more than I was willing to spend.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham · February 22, 2015, 11:00 AM

I Googled that rifle you mentioned,,,
I found this information on the Remington website.

It must have been very popular,,,
They produced approximately 307,000 of them.

Aarond.

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mattL46 · February 22, 2015, 06:30 PM

I'll join. Would have sooner But just saw this. I have a Winchester model 52-D. With Redfield international match sights. It's a single shot bolt rifle. It will put them in to a 1/2 inch and better at 50yds on a rickety picnic table. I am very proud to call it mine.

BumbleBug · February 22, 2015, 07:12 PM

This has me thinking about my ROTC days. I was on a rifle team all through high school & I got offered several college scholarships when I graduated.

In my freshman HS year we were provided Rem 513-T's. Extremely accurate rifles. In my sophomore year these rifles were upgraded to Rem 40X-B. These also were extremely accurate but much more substantial & easier to shoot well.

These single shot rifles were more accurate than any of the shooters. I shot several 100 rounds per day & the practice ammo was Rem Std Vel lead like you could buy anywhere. For matches we re-zero'd & used Win Match Pistol Ammo. Amazingly, we didn't clean our rifles all that often yet we were the team to beat shooting better than most college teams.

Just FWI...

...bug

cliffhangernlv · February 22, 2015, 08:23 PM

My dad brought a .22 lr single shot back from Germany after the war. It was a gorgeous Mauser. Ladder rear sight blade front. Deadly accurate. I took many a jack, and not a few snakes with it as a kid on the ranch. Lots of birds too, as I recall.

aarondhgraham · February 23, 2015, 10:20 AM

My best friend was a shooter,,,
She was on her high school rifle team in the late 60's.

Her Father was a WW-II vet who loved target shooting,,,
Her brother grew up around rifles,,,
But never caught the bug.

When my friend passed away a few years back,,,
I offered to store her firearms for him.

He lives in California and was a bit leery,,,
He didn't want to take anything home that was illegal.

So the night before he flew back west,,,
He shows up at my place with several blankets of rifles,,,
One of those rifles was a heavy barrel Winchester model 52 of some ilk.

This gun was definitely set up for bench shooting,,,
It weighed a ton and had huge peep sights.

I cleaned it up a bit and took it to the range,,,
With Remington mil-surp LRN ammo,,,
I shot a 1-hole group at 25 yards.

I have never been so tempted to steal a gun as I was with that rifle.

In actuality I could never do that to anyone,,,
So I did the next best thing and offered him a lo-ball price of $500.00,,,
I wasn't trying to steal the rifle though as I told him that it was probably worth twice that at least.

In a later conversation he told me he sold the model 52 for $1,800.00.

He did decide to gift me two others from her collection,,,
He gave me the two guns she always took out when we went shooting,,,
They were her nickel-plated 4" Model 34 and her Mossberg 340-KC target rifle.

That Model 52 would have been wasted on me,,,
The Mossberg and the S&W and I get along very well,,,
So I have two fine guns to remind me of my dear departed friend.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham · February 23, 2015, 10:23 AM

Those old Mausers are very collectible right now,,,
You have a very desirable rifle my friend.

If it's one of the Sporter style models,,,
I've seen them go for well over $500.00 on gunbroker.

I must admit I'm a bit envious,,,
Oh heck, I'm downright jealous of it.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham · February 23, 2015, 10:31 AM

Your ROTC rifle team was very well equipped indeed.

The rifle team at my HS didn't have good equipment at all,,,
In fact most of us used our own rifles in competition,,,
My uncle loaned me his Remington single-shot,,,
I can't for the life of me recall the model.

We did okay in competitions though,,,
In my two years we never won a state level match,,,
But what we could always do was keep the winning teams honest.

I do remember having a great time competing,,,
Like I said, we rarely came out on top,,,
But we were far from the bottom.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham · February 24, 2015, 12:30 PM

It's a GECO Karabiner Model 1925,,,
It was listed previously with a starting bid of $125.00.

It didn't sell or even get a bid,,,
The seller re-listed it with a starting bid of $115.00.

I really don't know much about this rifle,,,
But it has that old-world look that I like so much.

If I saw this in a store I would have bought it for $125 then and there,,,
But when you add $35 for shipping and $20 for the transfer fee,,,
That's $180 and it's more than I am comfy spending.

The thing sure has caught my eye though.

I sent the seller an e-mail offering $100 shipped if the gun fails to sell again,,,
I doubt he'll take me up on it as I realize it's a low-ball offer.

But you never know,,,
Maybe I'll get lucky with it.

Aarond

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mattL46 · February 24, 2015, 01:25 PM

Thank-you for your interest. Aarond. I have another. A Winchester 85 low wall. It's a centerfire 22. An odd K hornet variant. Probably my prettiest rifle. Great thread.

aarondhgraham · February 24, 2015, 02:24 PM

In my affinity for single-shot rifles.

I have friends who just aren't happy,,,
Unless they are burning 30 round mags in 15 seconds.

Don't get me wrong here,,,
I enjoy a fun mag dump as well as the next person,,,
But for the most part I'm much more pleased with a slow succession of hits.

It's also how I "test" a new range buddy,,,
The first time we go out I only take single-shots.

If they seem to be having fun and are enjoying the shooting,,,
I'll bring some semi's out for the next trip.

If they seem bored with single-shot,,,
I know we have different shooting preferences.

I'll still take them shooting with me,,,
But I tell them they have to scrounge their own ammo.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham · March 17, 2015, 12:11 PM

I found a pristine Western Field M815 today,,,
And by pristine I mean the metal of the gun is flawless.

The stock has one "smudge" in the finish,,,
It looks like it transferred gray paint from somewhere,,,
The butt plate and the plastic trigger guard are also in great shape.

The rear sight has the proper "elevator" on it,,,
The barrel is very clean and shiny,,,
And the bolt is slick.

According to a reference at Numrich,,,
The rifle is a Mossberg 320.

The Evil Pawn Shop Guy has a $129.00 price tag on it,,,
I'm certain that he'll call that the out the door price to include tax.

Whaddaya think gentlemen?

Should I jump on this rifle?

Aarond

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Fjblair · March 17, 2015, 01:03 PM

It was my first gun and I still shoot it. Extremely accurate. Received it for Christmas in the mid 70's. Can't remember the model without going to look. It's a bolt action single shot Winchester without the cocking lever/bolt. I wanted the clip version but my mom thought it unsafe LOL.

aarondhgraham · March 17, 2015, 01:42 PM

Quote:

...but my mom thought it unsafe.

Your mom and Mine were of the same mind,,,
When I bought my second rifle,,,
She hid the magazine.

But who knows,,,
Maybe they were right.

Even now when I take a newbie shooting rifles,,,
I always start them out on a single-shot,,,
Because I think it's a wee bit safer.

Aarond

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Picher · March 17, 2015, 07:05 PM

One of my favorite .22LR rifles, converted to single-shot. It's a Rem 581, with Fajen Thumbhole, stainless Lilja barrel, second bedding screw, glass bedded and floated, trigger down to 15 oz.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...8&d=1395773599

B.L.E. · March 17, 2015, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Even now when I take a newbie shooting rifles,,,
I always start them out on a single-shot,,,
Because I think it's a wee bit safer.

Aarond

To me it's not safety so much as it is marksmanship over seeing how much lead you can spray downrange.

aarondhgraham · March 18, 2015, 08:51 AM

That is one sexy rifle Picher,,,
What was entailed in making it a single-shot?

Was it just inserting a ramp/adaptor of some kind?

Quote:

To me it's not safety so much as it is marksmanship over seeing how much lead you can spray downrange.

That's pretty much why I have such an affinity for single-shots.

I'm no sniper quality marksman on my best of days,,,
But loading one round at a time helps me to at east try for the sniper mindset.

Aarond

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aarondhgraham · March 18, 2015, 10:14 AM

I went and took a second look at the rifle,,,
Because I always miss something on the first look.

I found a few tiny flaws in the blue near the barrels muzzle,,,
But nothing that steel-wool and some oil won't cure.

So I said,,,
Hey Mr. Evil Pawn Shop Guy,,,
Since I am your favorite customer of all time,,,
What's your best price for me out the door including tax?

He looked at the records and said,,
One hundred dollars.

I snapped it up like a hamster on a corn chip!

I'm going to the range this weekend,,,
I'll let you all know how it shoots.

Aarond

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dgludwig · March 19, 2015, 09:48 AM

Looks like you got a great buy on a rifle that appears to be in pristine condition. I'm wondering which Mossberg 320 variant (the 320B, 320K, 320K-A) that Montgomery Ward was selling or if they had Mossberg make a model 320 unique to their specs. Because the 320B came with an aperture sight, sling swivels and a Monte Carlo stock, my guess is that yours is patterned after the Models 320K/320K-A.
Anyway, congratulations on your find.

aarondhgraham · March 19, 2015, 10:31 AM

I went to that cross reference page again,,,
All it says is that the Western Field M815 is actually a Mossberg 320

My rifle has what looks like the standard rear sight and a brass bead front sight.

I've always wondered what the letter designations on Mossberg rifles meant,,,
Do you happen to have a reference that defines them?

Aarond

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February 20, 2015, 06:40 PM	#54
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	That's what you get for being a "whiney brat"... __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

February 21, 2015, 09:21 PM	#55
markallen Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: N E Ohio Posts: 221	I have, and still shoot my Dad's Remington 41 P Targetmaster, that he got back in 1936. It's still the most accurate .22 rifle I have fired. __________________ Don't do anything Stupid. And don't let Stupid do anything to you.

February 22, 2015, 10:55 AM	#56
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	No joy at the little gun show yesterday,,, No joy at the little gun show yesterday,,, It only had maybe 40 vendors,,, Only one single-shot rifle. But it was the cleanest model 67 I have ever seen,,, Nice dark walnut stock with no dents at all,,, All of the metal was in very good shape,,, It had been very well taken care of. The bore was like a mirror with very clean rifling,,, But the seller wanted $250.00 for it. In point of fact it might have been worth that price,,, It was just more than I was willing to spend. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

February 22, 2015, 11:00 AM	#57
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Hello markallen,,, I Googled that rifle you mentioned,,, I found this information on the Remington website. It must have been very popular,,, They produced approximately 307,000 of them. Aarond. . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

February 23, 2015, 10:20 AM	#61
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Hello mattL46 My best friend was a shooter,,, She was on her high school rifle team in the late 60's. Her Father was a WW-II vet who loved target shooting,,, Her brother grew up around rifles,,, But never caught the bug. When my friend passed away a few years back,,, I offered to store her firearms for him. He lives in California and was a bit leery,,, He didn't want to take anything home that was illegal. So the night before he flew back west,,, He shows up at my place with several blankets of rifles,,, One of those rifles was a heavy barrel Winchester model 52 of some ilk. This gun was definitely set up for bench shooting,,, It weighed a ton and had huge peep sights. I cleaned it up a bit and took it to the range,,, With Remington mil-surp LRN ammo,,, I shot a 1-hole group at 25 yards. I have never been so tempted to steal a gun as I was with that rifle. In actuality I could never do that to anyone,,, So I did the next best thing and offered him a lo-ball price of $500.00,,, I wasn't trying to steal the rifle though as I told him that it was probably worth twice that at least. In a later conversation he told me he sold the model 52 for $1,800.00. He did decide to gift me two others from her collection,,, He gave me the two guns she always took out when we went shooting,,, They were her nickel-plated 4" Model 34 and her Mossberg 340-KC target rifle. That Model 52 would have been wasted on me,,, The Mossberg and the S&W and I get along very well,,, So I have two fine guns to remind me of my dear departed friend. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time) Last edited by aarondhgraham; February 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM.

February 18, 2015, 10:11 PM	#51
Huffmanite Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2006 Location: Northeast of Houston, Tx Posts: 393	Have a BSA model 12 martini that shoots quite well for me. Use it with decent results in our private ranges monthly 50 yd open sight 22 rifle competition. With no wind, I can bust a clay pidgeon on the 200 yd bern within 3 shots. Also own a couple of old Stevens 22 single shots. One is a model 44 falling block and other is a Favorite. A long time ago, the 44 was in England, as it has British proof marks and its bore has been sleeved by A.G. Parker (of Parker-Hale). Shoots pretty decent too.

February 19, 2015, 07:17 AM	#52
alfredr Member Join Date: July 7, 2012 Location: Marietta, Ga. Posts: 48	Does a Savage 24 count? .22/.410, rifle/shotgun, over/under.

February 22, 2015, 06:30 PM	#58
mattL46 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2013 Posts: 656	I'll join. Would have sooner But just saw this. I have a Winchester model 52-D. With Redfield international match sights. It's a single shot bolt rifle. It will put them in to a 1/2 inch and better at 50yds on a rickety picnic table. I am very proud to call it mine.

February 22, 2015, 07:12 PM	#59
BumbleBug Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2013 Location: Near Heart of Texas Posts: 870	This has me thinking about my ROTC days. I was on a rifle team all through high school & I got offered several college scholarships when I graduated. In my freshman HS year we were provided Rem 513-T's. Extremely accurate rifles. In my sophomore year these rifles were upgraded to Rem 40X-B. These also were extremely accurate but much more substantial & easier to shoot well. These single shot rifles were more accurate than any of the shooters. I shot several 100 rounds per day & the practice ammo was Rem Std Vel lead like you could buy anywhere. For matches we re-zero'd & used Win Match Pistol Ammo. Amazingly, we didn't clean our rifles all that often yet we were the team to beat shooting better than most college teams. Just FWI... ...bug

February 22, 2015, 08:23 PM	#60
cliffhangernlv Member Join Date: February 14, 2015 Posts: 53	My dad brought a .22 lr single shot back from Germany after the war. It was a gorgeous Mauser. Ladder rear sight blade front. Deadly accurate. I took many a jack, and not a few snakes with it as a kid on the ranch. Lots of birds too, as I recall.

February 23, 2015, 10:23 AM	#62
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Hello cliffhangernlv,,, Those old Mausers are very collectible right now,,, You have a very desirable rifle my friend. If it's one of the Sporter style models,,, I've seen them go for well over $500.00 on gunbroker. I must admit I'm a bit envious,,, Oh heck, I'm downright jealous of it. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

February 23, 2015, 10:31 AM	#63
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Hello BumbleBug,,, Your ROTC rifle team was very well equipped indeed. The rifle team at my HS didn't have good equipment at all,,, In fact most of us used our own rifles in competition,,, My uncle loaned me his Remington single-shot,,, I can't for the life of me recall the model. We did okay in competitions though,,, In my two years we never won a state level match,,, But what we could always do was keep the winning teams honest. I do remember having a great time competing,,, Like I said, we rarely came out on top,,, But we were far from the bottom. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

February 24, 2015, 12:30 PM	#64
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I'm looking at another older single-shot on gunbroker,,, It's a GECO Karabiner Model 1925,,, It was listed previously with a starting bid of $125.00. It didn't sell or even get a bid,,, The seller re-listed it with a starting bid of $115.00. I really don't know much about this rifle,,, But it has that old-world look that I like so much. If I saw this in a store I would have bought it for $125 then and there,,, But when you add $35 for shipping and $20 for the transfer fee,,, That's $180 and it's more than I am comfy spending. The thing sure has caught my eye though. I sent the seller an e-mail offering $100 shipped if the gun fails to sell again,,, I doubt he'll take me up on it as I realize it's a low-ball offer. But you never know,,, Maybe I'll get lucky with it. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

February 24, 2015, 01:25 PM	#65
mattL46 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2013 Posts: 656	Thank-you for your interest. Aarond. I have another. A Winchester 85 low wall. It's a centerfire 22. An odd K hornet variant. Probably my prettiest rifle. Great thread.

February 24, 2015, 02:24 PM	#66
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I'm just glad to see I'm not alone,,, In my affinity for single-shot rifles. I have friends who just aren't happy,,, Unless they are burning 30 round mags in 15 seconds. Don't get me wrong here,,, I enjoy a fun mag dump as well as the next person,,, But for the most part I'm much more pleased with a slow succession of hits. It's also how I "test" a new range buddy,,, The first time we go out I only take single-shots. If they seem to be having fun and are enjoying the shooting,,, I'll bring some semi's out for the next trip. If they seem bored with single-shot,,, I know we have different shooting preferences. I'll still take them shooting with me,,, But I tell them they have to scrounge their own ammo. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

March 17, 2015, 12:11 PM	#67
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I found a pristine Western Field M815 today,,, I found a pristine Western Field M815 today,,, And by pristine I mean the metal of the gun is flawless. The stock has one "smudge" in the finish,,, It looks like it transferred gray paint from somewhere,,, The butt plate and the plastic trigger guard are also in great shape. The rear sight has the proper "elevator" on it,,, The barrel is very clean and shiny,,, And the bolt is slick. According to a reference at Numrich,,, The rifle is a Mossberg 320. The Evil Pawn Shop Guy has a $129.00 price tag on it,,, I'm certain that he'll call that the out the door price to include tax. Whaddaya think gentlemen? Should I jump on this rifle? Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

March 17, 2015, 01:03 PM	#68
Fjblair Member Join Date: January 3, 2013 Posts: 53	It was my first gun and I still shoot it. Extremely accurate. Received it for Christmas in the mid 70's. Can't remember the model without going to look. It's a bolt action single shot Winchester without the cocking lever/bolt. I wanted the clip version but my mom thought it unsafe LOL.

March 17, 2015, 07:05 PM	#70
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 3,694	One of my favorite .22LR rifles, converted to single-shot. It's a Rem 581, with Fajen Thumbhole, stainless Lilja barrel, second bedding screw, glass bedded and floated, trigger down to 15 oz. http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...8&d=1395773599

March 18, 2015, 10:14 AM	#73
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	The deal was too good to pass up,,, I went and took a second look at the rifle,,, Because I always miss something on the first look. I found a few tiny flaws in the blue near the barrels muzzle,,, But nothing that steel-wool and some oil won't cure. So I said,,, Hey Mr. Evil Pawn Shop Guy,,, Since I am your favorite customer of all time,,, What's your best price for me out the door including tax? He looked at the records and said,, One hundred dollars. I snapped it up like a hamster on a corn chip! I'm going to the range this weekend,,, I'll let you all know how it shoots. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time) Last edited by aarondhgraham; March 19, 2015 at 08:03 AM.

March 19, 2015, 09:48 AM	#74
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	Looks like you got a great buy on a rifle that appears to be in pristine condition. I'm wondering which Mossberg 320 variant (the 320B, 320K, 320K-A) that Montgomery Ward was selling or if they had Mossberg make a model 320 unique to their specs. Because the 320B came with an aperture sight, sling swivels and a Monte Carlo stock, my guess is that yours is patterned after the Models 320K/320K-A. Anyway, congratulations on your find. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

March 19, 2015, 10:31 AM	#75
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Hello dgludwig,,, I went to that cross reference page again,,, All it says is that the Western Field M815 is actually a Mossberg 320 My rifle has what looks like the standard rear sight and a brass bead front sight. I've always wondered what the letter designations on Mossberg rifles meant,,, Do you happen to have a reference that defines them? Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)