August 1, 2011, 01:43 PM | #26 |
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Went to my bank last month. I noticed a, no guns, added to the no dark glasses or hats sign. As I had buisness with the manager. I asked when the addition was made. He said it had been four months. I mentioned if I had seen it earlyer I would have closed my account by then. He said they realy just don't want people to be waiving their guns around. I told him mine stayed in my pocket for the most part, but I still had some considering to do.
Went back last week the sign is gone. Went today, still gone. Wonder if my statment had an impact? |
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He was pushed around a bit, then taken into lock up. He was advised by detectives what he should confess to because they would hate to see his truck damaged. They dictated his confession. At trial, the police testimony about how he came to be arrested didn't match the defendant's. The bank's tape of the event would have cleared the matter up, except that just as two POs approached the man in line, the tape went blank for ten minutes. He was acquitted of all charges. His fees were $25,000. That is an atypical experience, but I wouldn't do a lot of gratuitous envelop pushing in a bank.
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There is local restaraunt that I go to here and they have a sign " No Concealed Carry" on premise. Its 12 feet inside the door, so you are already in violation of the policy. ????
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Seems to me that it would be the insurance companies that are pushing the gun free zones, not the actual employees. Of course they don't want to lose business because of it so they may try to "hide" the signs, but if the shtf they can always say "I told you not to bring a gun in here".
Yes...they do want it both ways.
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Law review articles indicate that the majority legal opinion is that concealed carriers represent some risk to the store or business. Carrying employees even more.
The signs cover them and the no employee carry policy covers them if the concealed carrier does something bad or the employee does something bad. Now before you say that you can sue them for not allowing to carry, I couldn't find any literature suggesting that and our own progun legal guys think that wouldn't fly in court.
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I respect the signs (legal or otherwise) not permitting guns, I also take my business elsewhere.
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I believe in the Constitutional Right to Carry Arms.
I also believe in the right not to carry arms. I believe a private business has the right to forbid firearms just like they have the right to put up 'NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO SERVICE" However, capatilism being what it is, we have the right to chose where we shop or eat. I don't believe the goverment has the right to force someone to allow barefoot w/out shirts, or someone to carry againste the wishes of a private business. I would think that unless the law states its illegal, carrying a firearm in a business that forbids them leaves one open to a "tresspass charge" if told to leave because you have a firearm.
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Heh.....
I've never seen such a sign! I wonder why? Oh wait! I know! Its 'cuz I live in Illinois and my gun is chained to my house. Silly me.
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In some cases, businesses were convinced that allowing customers to carry could also result in bloodshed and blowback for the company. We know that's incorrect. Peggy at the corporate office doesn't. Generally, if a place has a "no guns" sign, I avoid it. It's their property, and their choice. I've heard plenty of folks scream, "concealed means CONCEALED" and "what they don't know won't hurt 'em," but I find that incredibly rude. Right or not, property owners have some right to determine what behavior they want to allow on the premises.
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Anyways, in many states the signs are simply the owner's wishes and for violating, you will be asked to leave. In Ohio, you don't get that chance, if you ignore the sign and get caught you, at the least, will be charged with misdemeanor improper carry or something like that. IMO, the signs are pointless, but that's fine because its pointless to me to spend my money there. Does anyone donate money to religions they don't belong to? |
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First, I CCW.( Las Vegas)
That's it, it's a none issue. I fact, it never comes to mind 98.334487% of the time. FYI, I never open carry until my belt buckle comes. |
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