Need Info on a 1941 U.N. Numbered Baretta Gardone Carcano 6.5

DocSmokey · April 21, 2009, 03:40 PM

I have been given, by my elder Mother-In-Law, a U.N model 1941 BARETTA GARDONE CARCANO 6.5 small rifle with attached Bayonet which I believe is a CARCANO 1938 CAVALRY CARBINE 6.5MM.
It has matching U.N. serial numbers on the stock and behind the rear sight and is dated 1941.. The numbers by the sight are...1941-X1X and the matching U.N. numbers on the stock & by the rear sight are...U.N. 7784...
It also has a Baretta Gardone 1941 indent seal on the stock.
I would like to know something about this little rifle, the availability of magazines/stripper clips and if this rifle has any value.. Any info will be helpful, Thanks...
SMOKEY

James K · April 26, 2009, 10:42 PM

It does sound like a Model 38 carbine. The 1941-XIX is the date it was made for the Italian armed forces by Beretta, located in Gardone, Italy. (Beretta is very much still in business and the U.S. armed forces now use a Beretta pistol as the standard sidearm.) The 1941 is obvious; the Roman number 19 was part of Mussolini's effort to "restore" the glory of the Roman Empire. One of his ideas was a new dating system beginning with 1922, the year of his March on Rome. So 1941-19 is 1922.

I am not sure what you mean by a UN number. The letter prefix would be part of the serial number, not a reference to the United Nations.

Value of those guns runs around $150 or so. The cartridge is relatively low powered, but is adequate for medium game, like white tail deer. They require what is called an "en bloc" clip, not a stripper clip. The clip holds six rounds and is loaded into the magazine. Clips can be had from www.gunpartscorp.com* or at gun shows. Ammunition is (or was) available, but expensive.

*Their catalog calls it a stripper clip, but that is an error.

Jim

April 21, 2009, 03:40 PM	#1
DocSmokey Junior Member Join Date: April 21, 2009 Location: New Jersey (Unfortunately) Posts: 4	Need Info on a 1941 U.N. Numbered Baretta Gardone Carcano 6.5 I have been given, by my elder Mother-In-Law, a U.N model 1941 BARETTA GARDONE CARCANO 6.5 small rifle with attached Bayonet which I believe is a CARCANO 1938 CAVALRY CARBINE 6.5MM. It has matching U.N. serial numbers on the stock and behind the rear sight and is dated 1941.. The numbers by the sight are...1941-X1X and the matching U.N. numbers on the stock & by the rear sight are...U.N. 7784... It also has a Baretta Gardone 1941 indent seal on the stock. I would like to know something about this little rifle, the availability of magazines/stripper clips and if this rifle has any value.. Any info will be helpful, Thanks... SMOKEY

April 26, 2009, 10:42 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	It does sound like a Model 38 carbine. The 1941-XIX is the date it was made for the Italian armed forces by Beretta, located in Gardone, Italy. (Beretta is very much still in business and the U.S. armed forces now use a Beretta pistol as the standard sidearm.) The 1941 is obvious; the Roman number 19 was part of Mussolini's effort to "restore" the glory of the Roman Empire. One of his ideas was a new dating system beginning with 1922, the year of his March on Rome. So 1941-19 is 1922. I am not sure what you mean by a UN number. The letter prefix would be part of the serial number, not a reference to the United Nations. Value of those guns runs around $150 or so. The cartridge is relatively low powered, but is adequate for medium game, like white tail deer. They require what is called an "en bloc" clip, not a stripper clip. The clip holds six rounds and is loaded into the magazine. Clips can be had from www.gunpartscorp.com* or at gun shows. Ammunition is (or was) available, but expensive. *Their catalog calls it a stripper clip, but that is an error. Jim