A bad week for central NY LEO

AMT8951 · March 5, 2006, 09:42 AM

Last week saw two central NY LEO's die in the line of duty. Joseph Korr of the New Hartford PD (just south of Utica) was killed by a single gun shot wound to the neck while attempting to apprehend a suspect in a jewlry store robbery. The word is Korr was pursuing the suspect on foot after a vehicle pusuit, when the suspect turned and fired on him. He leaves behind a wife and a one year old daughter. The suspect then carjacked a tow truck to Harrisburg PA, and was killed by U.S. Marshalls a few days later in Phil PA. Three accomplices made off with over 1 million dollars in jewlry, but have since been apprehended.

Trooper Andrew (AJ) Sperr of the NYSP, was killed two days later in Horseheads NY (near Elmira), about 90 minutes from Utica. Apparently Sperr was checking i9nvestigating a vehicle matching the discription of one used in a bank robbery, earlier that day. As he approached the vehicle two males opened fire on him. He was struck once, below his vest and later died of his injuries. Before dying he shot one of his attackers four times and the other once, with his Glock 17. Both suspects survived and are in custody.

Don't know if this belongs in this forum, but I thoght that people should know.
Everyone (LEO or not) be carefull out there and stay sharp, thier are people in this world who will try to kill you for no good reason!

TooTall · March 5, 2006, 09:49 AM

There seems to be a "trend" that comes along every few years, when a rash of LEO killings take place.
The California Highway Patrol has lost 5 officers during the past 6 months.

yomama · March 5, 2006, 09:53 AM

God bless law enforcement. The work has always fascinated me, but have to say I don't have the cohonas to do it. Without them, we would all be living in a world where courage and commitment to humanity and life is overtaken by evil.

It's not vengence, it's punishment - The Punisher

rapier144 · March 5, 2006, 09:58 AM

Pretty damn good shooting for officer Sperr.Just not fast enough.

Sulaco2 · March 6, 2006, 06:52 PM

I think the majority of deaths in Kaliforna were from being hit by cars on the freeway after making traffic stops, rather than gun fire although there were those as well. And the Commish of Hiway patrols response to this death level? Hire councilers to see how the cops "FEEL" about being flattened by idiots!!!

Chris1911 · March 7, 2006, 03:50 PM

Thats very sad to hear about Utica...I have a buddy in the village of Poland pretty close to Utica, I didn't realize Utica was that dangerous....

rapier144 · March 7, 2006, 04:08 PM

It depends on what part of utica you're in. I was there awhile ago and watched a dominos pizza delivery guy get robbed of his pizza in broad daylight.And bicycles must be community property because i watched several being taken while i was there.

darkvibe · March 7, 2006, 07:48 PM

I visit the Rome/Utica area often. Utica has good and bad areas like anywhere else.

This is my own guess but I think a lot of the problems around the area are bacause of the state prisons. People get locked up and transfered around the state and end up in Marcy or Mohawk correctional facility. Their friends or families or whoever come to the area to be near them while they are here. It's possible that the low housing costs there are a factor.

Apparently crime runs in the family. If you read the paper in rome or utica they list all of the arrests that happen. There are many items in the log for things like drugs, robberies and assaults with "xxxxxxx of bronx" and "xxxxxxx of queens".

And before anyone reads too deep into all that I am NOT saying people from NYC are more likely to be a criminal. It's just that a large percentage of the inmates are from there because NYC is what, 40% of the states population or something like that? So there is bound to be about equal percentage of NYC residents in the state prison system.

Dwight55 · March 7, 2006, 08:01 PM

Ohio just almost lost a Highway Patrolman just a few weeks ago. Stopped a guy for DUI, . . . got him out of the vehicle to pat him down, . . . out comes a .45 auto.

Suspect grabbed it and got off one shot, . . . officer managed to get missed somehow, . . . couldn't rassle the gun from him, . . . pulled out his piece and shot the bg in the head. Dash camera in the cruiser caught it all.

I really felt sorry for the bg's momma, . . . she just could not get it in her head that the officer shot her baby boy in the head, . . . cause her baby boy was trying his best to kill the officer.

Anyway, . . . tough job out there being an LEO.

May God bless,
Dwight

AMT8951 · March 7, 2006, 08:27 PM

Dwight55- My Sergant showed us that tape last week. Pretty disturbing, but it's good to see one where the good guy wins.

New Hartford is a fairly affluent susburb of Utica. The New Hartford PD is pretty small, about 30 Guys (same size as my PD). Utica has had all sorts of problems. It's one of those old burned out industrial towns that are so common in Upstate NY (ie Rochester, Buffalo, Amsterdam, Rome, Schenectady) It's not as bad as it was 5 yrs ago, but still pretty bad. They have a really bad problem with arson and drugs. They have murders fairly often, but usually it BG's killing BG's.

AMT8951 · March 7, 2006, 08:28 PM

Opps Double Post

March 5, 2006, 09:42 AM	#1
AMT8951 Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2005 Location: Central NY Posts: 492	A bad week for central NY LEO Last week saw two central NY LEO's die in the line of duty. Joseph Korr of the New Hartford PD (just south of Utica) was killed by a single gun shot wound to the neck while attempting to apprehend a suspect in a jewlry store robbery. The word is Korr was pursuing the suspect on foot after a vehicle pusuit, when the suspect turned and fired on him. He leaves behind a wife and a one year old daughter. The suspect then carjacked a tow truck to Harrisburg PA, and was killed by U.S. Marshalls a few days later in Phil PA. Three accomplices made off with over 1 million dollars in jewlry, but have since been apprehended. Trooper Andrew (AJ) Sperr of the NYSP, was killed two days later in Horseheads NY (near Elmira), about 90 minutes from Utica. Apparently Sperr was checking i9nvestigating a vehicle matching the discription of one used in a bank robbery, earlier that day. As he approached the vehicle two males opened fire on him. He was struck once, below his vest and later died of his injuries. Before dying he shot one of his attackers four times and the other once, with his Glock 17. Both suspects survived and are in custody. Don't know if this belongs in this forum, but I thoght that people should know. Everyone (LEO or not) be carefull out there and stay sharp, thier are people in this world who will try to kill you for no good reason! __________________ .40 cal Sig 2340 Kahr E9 S&W M65-5 RIA Midsize .45acp Glock 21 Olympic Arms M4 Win M70 .375 H&H FN PBR .308 Win M69A .22 Mini-14 Ithica M37 Deerslayer 12ga Remington 721 30/06

March 5, 2006, 09:58 AM	#4
rapier144 Senior Member Join Date: October 2, 2005 Location: tennessee Posts: 686	Pretty damn good shooting for officer Sperr.Just not fast enough. __________________ Scan and Breathe Scan and Breathe Stupidity should hurt

March 7, 2006, 04:08 PM	#7
rapier144 Senior Member Join Date: October 2, 2005 Location: tennessee Posts: 686	Chris It depends on what part of utica you're in. I was there awhile ago and watched a dominos pizza delivery guy get robbed of his pizza in broad daylight.And bicycles must be community property because i watched several being taken while i was there. __________________ Scan and Breathe Scan and Breathe Stupidity should hurt

March 7, 2006, 08:01 PM	#9
Dwight55 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 2,568	Ohio just almost lost a Highway Patrolman just a few weeks ago. Stopped a guy for DUI, . . . got him out of the vehicle to pat him down, . . . out comes a .45 auto. Suspect grabbed it and got off one shot, . . . officer managed to get missed somehow, . . . couldn't rassle the gun from him, . . . pulled out his piece and shot the bg in the head. Dash camera in the cruiser caught it all. I really felt sorry for the bg's momma, . . . she just could not get it in her head that the officer shot her baby boy in the head, . . . cause her baby boy was trying his best to kill the officer. Anyway, . . . tough job out there being an LEO. May God bless, Dwight __________________ www.dwightsgunleather.com If you can breathe, . . . thank God! If you can read, . . . thank a teacher! If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a Veteran!

March 7, 2006, 08:27 PM	#10
AMT8951 Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2005 Location: Central NY Posts: 492	Dwight55- My Sergant showed us that tape last week. Pretty disturbing, but it's good to see one where the good guy wins. New Hartford is a fairly affluent susburb of Utica. The New Hartford PD is pretty small, about 30 Guys (same size as my PD). Utica has had all sorts of problems. It's one of those old burned out industrial towns that are so common in Upstate NY (ie Rochester, Buffalo, Amsterdam, Rome, Schenectady) It's not as bad as it was 5 yrs ago, but still pretty bad. They have a really bad problem with arson and drugs. They have murders fairly often, but usually it BG's killing BG's. __________________ .40 cal Sig 2340 Kahr E9 S&W M65-5 RIA Midsize .45acp Glock 21 Olympic Arms M4 Win M70 .375 H&H FN PBR .308 Win M69A .22 Mini-14 Ithica M37 Deerslayer 12ga Remington 721 30/06

March 5, 2006, 09:49 AM	#2
TooTall Member Join Date: January 22, 2006 Posts: 62	There seems to be a "trend" that comes along every few years, when a rash of LEO killings take place. The California Highway Patrol has lost 5 officers during the past 6 months.

March 5, 2006, 09:53 AM	#3
yomama Junior member Join Date: February 28, 2006 Posts: 509	God bless law enforcement. The work has always fascinated me, but have to say I don't have the cohonas to do it. Without them, we would all be living in a world where courage and commitment to humanity and life is overtaken by evil. It's not vengence, it's punishment - The Punisher

March 6, 2006, 06:52 PM	#5
Sulaco2 Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,247	I think the majority of deaths in Kaliforna were from being hit by cars on the freeway after making traffic stops, rather than gun fire although there were those as well. And the Commish of Hiway patrols response to this death level? Hire councilers to see how the cops "FEEL" about being flattened by idiots!!!

March 7, 2006, 03:50 PM	#6
Chris1911 Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Location: Sparta, NJ Posts: 58	Thats very sad to hear about Utica...I have a buddy in the village of Poland pretty close to Utica, I didn't realize Utica was that dangerous....

March 7, 2006, 07:48 PM	#8
darkvibe Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2005 Posts: 104	I visit the Rome/Utica area often. Utica has good and bad areas like anywhere else. This is my own guess but I think a lot of the problems around the area are bacause of the state prisons. People get locked up and transfered around the state and end up in Marcy or Mohawk correctional facility. Their friends or families or whoever come to the area to be near them while they are here. It's possible that the low housing costs there are a factor. Apparently crime runs in the family. If you read the paper in rome or utica they list all of the arrests that happen. There are many items in the log for things like drugs, robberies and assaults with "xxxxxxx of bronx" and "xxxxxxx of queens". And before anyone reads too deep into all that I am NOT saying people from NYC are more likely to be a criminal. It's just that a large percentage of the inmates are from there because NYC is what, 40% of the states population or something like that? So there is bound to be about equal percentage of NYC residents in the state prison system.

March 7, 2006, 08:28 PM	#11
AMT8951 Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2005 Location: Central NY Posts: 492	Opps Double Post __________________ .40 cal Sig 2340 Kahr E9 S&W M65-5 RIA Midsize .45acp Glock 21 Olympic Arms M4 Win M70 .375 H&H FN PBR .308 Win M69A .22 Mini-14 Ithica M37 Deerslayer 12ga Remington 721 30/06