thermal imaging

firend · July 27, 2009, 09:55 PM

here is a question, how do you train to beat it? I have heard a company makes a ghilli suit that is undetectable. I have also heard mylar bags and glass deflect your heat image?

I mean if a robbers come to hurt you, and lets say you flee outside behind the bushes, uh oh he can see you with is Thermal camera. Just a weird thought.

Hellbilly5000 · July 27, 2009, 10:04 PM

about the only way to beat it is a thermal blanket or a thermal firesuit like they use to put out fires on oil wells and they use for getting close to volcanos

Composer_1777 · July 27, 2009, 10:06 PM

People are not going to have thermal imaging.

hogdogs · July 27, 2009, 10:07 PM

Having a rash of burglars wearing 2k NVG's?

Brent

trooper3385 · July 27, 2009, 10:09 PM

You got to be kidding me. We are all dumber after reading this.

firend · July 27, 2009, 10:14 PM

ok, srry to put some of you out.

Lets make another scenario, red dawn is here. The Eastern bloc military is going house to house with their thermal imaging. How do you not get caught and thrown in a camp. I find it a legitimate question.

Maybe some of you think it is stupid, but if it is available which it is right now, and your life is at stake, why is it dumb to think the enemy has it and can see you when you think your hid.

MLeake · July 27, 2009, 10:24 PM

... isn't going to happen... we currently have the world's strongest military, in terms of training, C2, and logistics. Not to mention one of the two biggest nuclear arsenals.

And remember Admiral Yamamoto's caution to Japan about why not to invade the US: "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

If you want to think about such a scenario, go ahead, but realize that of all the "really bad day" scenarios you might come up with, "Red Dawn" is one of the very least likely.

Tucker 1371 · July 27, 2009, 10:24 PM

The cheapest THERMAL gear I have seen is around $10k, nightvision is a different story. Some NVG systems use a thermal intensifier but it is not quite the same as thermal and the range is limited. Theoretically you could defeat it temporarily with mud (didn't you see Arnie do it in Predator?

) or as others have said you could line the inside of your jacket with mylar.

As fun as these Red Dawn, Poo Hits the Fan (SHTF), and TEOTWAWKI (my favorite, The End Of The World As We Know It) are they usually don't get a warm welcome from the mods which you will probably see here shortly.

Keep it realistic and focused and enjoy

hogdogs · July 27, 2009, 10:29 PM

Us simple subjects of the King who owns this fine "kingdom" we know as TFL are required to adhere to many rules both written and unwritten (most are written).
One is along the lines of not making threads about zombie attack, the end of the world as we know it "TEOTWAWKI" and hostile red dawn type invasions...
As for thermal imaging... I imagine they see muzzle flash pretty well.
Brent

firend · July 27, 2009, 10:32 PM

thx for the advice guys

hogdogs · July 27, 2009, 10:37 PM

I fergot the requisite IBTL...

Brent

danweasel · July 27, 2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

. isn't going to happen... we currently have the world's strongest military, in terms of training, C2, and logistics. Not to mention one of the two biggest nuclear arsenals.

And remember Admiral Yamamoto's caution to Japan about why not to invade the US: "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

If you want to think about such a scenario, go ahead, but realize that of all the "really bad day" scenarios you might come up with, "Red Dawn" is one of the very least likely.

A simple. "I don't know" would have been fine.

Just kidding.

oldkim · July 27, 2009, 10:49 PM

You can always do an Arnold in "Predator." He rubbed special mud all over to hide from the alien thermal sensor.

What a joke of a question. Sorry but that one was out of the park.

So, "some" criminal is going to break in to your place and search for you with a thermal camera or something along those lines? Just don't think so.

Police on the other hand. Highly probable.

**JohnKSa** · July 27, 2009, 10:56 PM

Robber/burglar scenario: A person with a thermal imaging camera wouldn't need to break into houses to get a lot of money.

Red Dawn scenario: We don't do Red Dawn/SHTF/TEOTWAWKI threads on TFL.

July 27, 2009, 09:55 PM	#1
firend Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Posts: 16	thermal imaging here is a question, how do you train to beat it? I have heard a company makes a ghilli suit that is undetectable. I have also heard mylar bags and glass deflect your heat image? I mean if a robbers come to hurt you, and lets say you flee outside behind the bushes, uh oh he can see you with is Thermal camera. Just a weird thought.

July 27, 2009, 10:04 PM	#2
Hellbilly5000 Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2009 Location: RGV, Tx Posts: 787	about the only way to beat it is a thermal blanket or a thermal firesuit like they use to put out fires on oil wells and they use for getting close to volcanos __________________ And death climbs the steps one by one, To give you the rose that's been burnt by her son, Point me to the sky above I can't get there on my own, Walk me through the graveyard Dig up her bones

July 27, 2009, 10:24 PM	#7
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	the Red Dawn scenario... ... isn't going to happen... we currently have the world's strongest military, in terms of training, C2, and logistics. Not to mention one of the two biggest nuclear arsenals. And remember Admiral Yamamoto's caution to Japan about why not to invade the US: "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." If you want to think about such a scenario, go ahead, but realize that of all the "really bad day" scenarios you might come up with, "Red Dawn" is one of the very least likely.

July 27, 2009, 10:24 PM	#8
Tucker 1371 Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: East TN Posts: 2,649	IBTL The cheapest THERMAL gear I have seen is around $10k, nightvision is a different story. Some NVG systems use a thermal intensifier but it is not quite the same as thermal and the range is limited. Theoretically you could defeat it temporarily with mud (didn't you see Arnie do it in Predator?) or as others have said you could line the inside of your jacket with mylar. As fun as these Red Dawn, Poo Hits the Fan (SHTF), and TEOTWAWKI (my favorite, The End Of The World As We Know It) are they usually don't get a warm welcome from the mods which you will probably see here shortly. Keep it realistic and focused and enjoy __________________ Sgt. of Marines, 5th Award Expert Rifle, 237/250 Expert Pistol, 382/400. D Co, 4th CEB, Engineers UP!! If you start a thread, be active in it. Don't leave us hanging. OEF 2011 Sangin, Afg. Molon Labe

July 27, 2009, 10:49 PM	#13
oldkim Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 462	you can play "Predator" You can always do an Arnold in "Predator." He rubbed special mud all over to hide from the alien thermal sensor. What a joke of a question. Sorry but that one was out of the park. So, "some" criminal is going to break in to your place and search for you with a thermal camera or something along those lines? Just don't think so. Police on the other hand. Highly probable. __________________ "Shoot Safetly, Shoot Often and Share Your Sport." Jim Scoutten, Shooting USA Check out my new website: www.shootonthemove.org

July 27, 2009, 10:06 PM	#3
Composer_1777 Junior member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: New Orleans, La Posts: 242	People are not going to have thermal imaging.

July 27, 2009, 10:07 PM	#4
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Having a rash of burglars wearing 2k NVG's? Brent

July 27, 2009, 10:09 PM	#5
trooper3385 Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 814	You got to be kidding me. We are all dumber after reading this.

July 27, 2009, 10:14 PM	#6
firend Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Posts: 16	ok, srry to put some of you out. Lets make another scenario, red dawn is here. The Eastern bloc military is going house to house with their thermal imaging. How do you not get caught and thrown in a camp. I find it a legitimate question. Maybe some of you think it is stupid, but if it is available which it is right now, and your life is at stake, why is it dumb to think the enemy has it and can see you when you think your hid.

July 27, 2009, 10:29 PM	#9
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Us simple subjects of the King who owns this fine "kingdom" we know as TFL are required to adhere to many rules both written and unwritten (most are written). One is along the lines of not making threads about zombie attack, the end of the world as we know it "TEOTWAWKI" and hostile red dawn type invasions... As for thermal imaging... I imagine they see muzzle flash pretty well. Brent

July 27, 2009, 10:32 PM	#10
firend Member Join Date: July 27, 2009 Posts: 16	thx for the advice guys

July 27, 2009, 10:37 PM	#11
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	I fergot the requisite IBTL... Brent

July 27, 2009, 10:56 PM	#14
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,989	Robber/burglar scenario: A person with a thermal imaging camera wouldn't need to break into houses to get a lot of money. Red Dawn scenario: We don't do Red Dawn/SHTF/TEOTWAWKI threads on TFL. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?