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June 1, 2006, 08:52 AM | #1 | |
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From the Mouths of Democrats
Leading Democrats - and the ACLU - show their true colors regarding our right to arms.
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June 1, 2006, 09:30 AM | #2 |
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I'm with you. I hate gun-banning politicians. But we got rid of Bush Sr!
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June 1, 2006, 09:37 AM | #3 |
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Hee hee ... you asked for it now Handy!
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June 1, 2006, 09:43 AM | #4 |
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I know, I can't help myself.
Voting democrat is generally a bad choice for gun issues. But some candidates, right and left, do not tote the party line. So I recommend examining the voting record and inclinations of any candidate before you vote for them. Of all gun laws that still affect us, Bush Sr's is the most aggregious, and easiest for his son to remove. That pisses me off to no end, and makes me realize that they are ALL just politicians. |
June 1, 2006, 09:45 AM | #5 |
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Oh the above said people have never said otherwise. I knew before I read those where those people stood regarding my right to keep and bear arms.
You could probably dig up a list of Republicans who will say the same things (as opposed to traditional conservatives). Including, as someone already stated Geo. Bush Sr., and (much as I hate to say it) Ronald Reagan who, if I remember right was for an assault weapons ban in the 1980s. |
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The bad part of this is that there are Pro 2A Dems around.
Just as there are Anti gun Repubs. AFS |
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I'll bet you'll find progun Democrats are out numbered at least 10 to 1 by antigun bigot Democrats in the House and Senate. That is the point I'm getting at that some people still refuse to acknowledge.:barf: |
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June 1, 2006, 10:06 AM | #8 |
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Thats good stuff steelheart!
Two things sure to disappear under democratic rule are guns and your hard earned money. |
June 1, 2006, 10:09 AM | #9 |
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Right! 6 years of Republican rule and I'm richer than ever!
Where's my bicycle? |
June 1, 2006, 10:11 AM | #10 |
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Let's stay on topic here - we are not talking about money or bicycles.
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June 1, 2006, 10:24 AM | #11 |
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I'm just trying to make the point that one box does not fit all.
There are always exceptions. AFS |
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And I'm just trying to make the point that
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June 1, 2006, 10:51 AM | #13 | |
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Steel,
That's actually the point that Handy was making: Quote:
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June 1, 2006, 11:06 AM | #14 |
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The liberal politicians that steel listed are VERY anti-gun and carry alot of influence within that party.
They hated gun ownership 10 20 50 years ago, and feel the same to this very day. |
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Does anyone else see a pattern here???
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Anyone care to comment on the current president of the Brady Campaign?
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June 2, 2006, 10:47 AM | #17 |
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Paul Helmke is a leftist/socialist RINO. Antigun bigots are not exclusively Democrats - but they are overwhelmingly Democrat. As I pointed out earlier, probably 10 to 1 or more.
Scratch that - more like 20 to 1. |
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Is every anti-gun Republican a RINO?
Are pro-gun Democrats DINOs? |
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That's your call, Handy.
Maybe Helmke isn't a RINO. But he most certainly is a leftist/socialist - look at the company he keeps. |
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Told you the last time that the debate is complex as the GOP contains threats to freedom equal to the attack on gun rights.
And don't tell me that Mr. Steelheart is going to lead armed revolution to prevent social conservative attacks on freedom. Hahaha! Anyone with half a brain would realize that trying to defend the RKBA with a purely social conservative base, isn't going to work. Not enough of them and they are a threat to freedom also. What you need is to convince the middle of the country and some on the left that the RKBA is a left-right neutral position and all should support it. I've talked that line for years and on an individual level to my left leaning friends can be convincing. Too bad gun organizations don't try this - and yes, I've made that point to the higher levels of the RKBA community. However, decision making by gun rights organizations is complex and they pitch to a base which may make them more money. Feel free to call names now. Posting the same old drivel and not understanding the issues is not very interesting.
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Steelheart is right, in that if all 80 million "owners" voted down the Anti-gunners just once!... It would be the political Bloody END of the anti-gunners for generations to come! Works for me!
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But unless some clear and present danger to gun rights is on the table and in the forefront for gun owners to see (i.e., plastered on the news every night), most people do not know, or care enough to find out as they're busy with daily life. Believe it or not, most gun owners do not come to internet boards and stay on top of the political/legal gun issues. Most target shoot a little, hunt a little, work and take care of their family while assuming everything is fine. I was one of these people just a few years ago. |
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