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Old January 7, 2008, 08:58 PM   #1
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Picky new Glock 19

This is a factory new pistol.

I fired 200 rds of Winchester 115 gr FMJ with 1 ftf early in the session. Then I changed to Remington UMC 115 gr. JHP and fired 20 rds, stopped because 5 of the 20 jammed with feed issues.

Is this normal for a Glock 19 9MM? I don't recall this much of an issue with a new Glock 20 I purchased long ago.

Is the Remington JHP a bad load for the 19? Suggestion for a better JHP choice?

Any suggestions as to how much more FMJ to put through the pistol before expecting the gun to shoot JHP?
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Old January 7, 2008, 09:20 PM   #2
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Did you clean and lube before firing? I own G19, G17 and G34, and never had an ammo issue. Clean/lube and shoot different ammo then try the previous ammo again, it should be fine unless you have out of spec. ammo.
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Old January 7, 2008, 09:38 PM   #3
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It is a factory new pistol. I edited prev. post to that effect.

I have generally fired some ball ammo through new guns before going to JHP.

Others have told me they have never shot any FMJ with new 9MM Glocks and had good results.

If another brand of JHP produces jams, I intend to contact the seller for further instructions. Bought the gun across the state about 300 miles.
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Old January 8, 2008, 01:15 PM   #4
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There's no reason to shoot fmjs through a Glock, in order to "break in" or condition a Glock for h.p.s.

You're not going to want to hear this, but the symptoms you describe are classic "limpwristing" or weak ammo symptoms. Get hotter ammo and make sure that you lock your wrists and that you don't let your elbows act like shock absorbers.

Gripped properly, that G19 will shoot any commercial ammo reliably.

You didn't have a limpwristing problem with the G20 for obvious reasons.
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Old January 8, 2008, 02:54 PM   #5
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I hope it turns out to be "limpwristing" On the way to the range now. I took my vitamins.
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Old January 8, 2008, 03:33 PM   #6
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Lots of pistols hate UMC. It's loaded lighter than just about anything else and is also shorter than anything else. Maybe somebody will post the photo I saw in another thread, it clearly shows the remington stuff has a shorter overall length compared to lots of other loads.

Buy some ammo your pistol likes and forget about it.
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Old January 8, 2008, 06:56 PM   #7
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Was back at the range this afternoon. My boy went with me. He watched me fire and immediately caught my limpwristing.

He had been at the range quite often in HS years.

He put it politely, "Recoil is affecting you more now Pop!"

Why the little ... oops .. he ain't so little and he shoots a lot also .. wonder where he got that from?

Apparently the FMJ's tolerate a weak wrist better than JHPs.

Alleykat ... you got it right.

Now where's the squeeze spring thingy? Wrist curls with hand weights? Yeah I'll try that too. Maybe then I can get the lid off the Smuckers without cussing.
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Old January 10, 2008, 03:13 PM   #8
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KS: I've seen some 250# guys, who are really strong, limpwrist. You don't have to use a death grip on the pistol; you just can't let your wrists and elbows act like shock absorbers. Limpwristing sounds so "effeminate", but it's not; it's just a shooting habit that's easily correctable.

The weaker the ammo/stronger the recoil spring, the more exacerbated the effects of limpwristing.
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