Man shot in home by burglars -- IT DOES HAPPEN!

leadcounsel · October 3, 2005, 05:09 PM

It really does happen, and it happened here in Colorado just today!

www.9news.com

Colorado: DOUGLAS COUNTY - Masked intruders shot a man after he confronted them as they were leaving with stolen money.

Additional Resources...
Video: 9News Reporter Ginger Delgado says police are looking for three suspects after a homeowner was shot during a burglary. 9News at Noon. October 3, 2005.

The 20-year-old victim called police around 12:40 a.m. Monday reporting an attempted burglary on the 13000 block of Mercury Drive in the Acres Green subdivision.

When police arrived they found the man who'd been shot. He was transported to a local hospital where he remains in stable condition. Two other roommates who lived at the home weren't hurt.

Investigators say the three suspects broke into the home through the garage.

The victim said they were wearing ski masks and dark clothes. When sheriff's deputies arrived, they searched the area with a canine but couldn't track down the men.

Another witness told investigators that they left the area in a dark colored sedan.

Officials have not said how much money was taken from the home.

C Philip · October 3, 2005, 05:23 PM

Yes, it does happen. I bet that man is sitting in the hospital thinking how much he wished he had a gun when they broke in. Very unfortunate. I don't see how people can oppose law abiding citizens owning firearms after things like this have been happening for as long as we know. There has always been crime, that won't change.

Double Naught Spy · October 3, 2005, 06:03 PM

Of course it can happen. I didn't see in the other thread where anyone said it was just a fantasy. Besides, your scenario wasn't about the homeowner getting shot and in your scenario he had a gun. This guy didn't seem to do that well.

What spacemanspiff was referring to as fantasy was your absolute knowledge of events about which in real life folks don't usually have absolute knowledge. Me, I am with you. I know who is and is not supposed to be in my home and those that matter to me know that if they wish to be in my home, they will let me know. There are intruders and there are guests. However, beyond that aspect, my knowledge gets awfully fuzzy at night, in the dark, with dark intruders. In the thread, it seemed like the homeowner did have this amazing absolute knowledge, or what I would call, total situational awareness. That isn't very realistic. For example, how did the homeowner know there were only 2 people in his house? He only discovered 2 in the house, but doesn't know if some have already gone upstairs.

This is probably the #1 problem with scenarios. Often parameters are given as absolutes when a person who is at the receiving end of the crime has no idea as to whether the information he has at the time is actually complete. Here is a scenario from our local police that actually happened. An officer approached a man with a gun who was breaking into a car in the parking lot. The officer ordered the man to cease and show his hands. The man turned quickly and fired. The officer was well prepared. He was in uniform, wearing body armor, had a call in for backup, and already had his sights trained on the suspect, the singular suspect he reported breaking into the car. When the suspect moved, the officer shot him twice in the chest and the suspect went down. The suspect's shot went wide. As the suspect appeared to be still alive, the officer approached with his gun still drawn. His obvious goal was to disarm the suspect and secure him. That didn't happen. The officer was shot dead. Both the suspect and officer died. What happened?

Unbeknownst to the officer, the suspect had a partner working in another part of the parking lot. The partner heard the officer giving orders to the suspect and knew his buddy was in trouble. With all of the officer's focus on the downed man with whom he had just exchanged shots, he apparently never saw or heard the accomplice walk up from behind and shoot him in the head with a shotgun.

How could this happen with just one suspect? Simple. There was more than one and the officer had no way to know it.

BloodyBucket03 · October 3, 2005, 06:23 PM

This is the type of thing that all of us who own firearms must be prepared for. Intruders who are coming to rob a person's home can definitely be packing thats why I have a few friends named Mossberg,AR, and my buddy Glock 30. Anti Gunners better run to the firearms dealer and find yourself a companion too!!

October 3, 2005, 06:03 PM	#3
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Of course it can happen. I didn't see in the other thread where anyone said it was just a fantasy. Besides, your scenario wasn't about the homeowner getting shot and in your scenario he had a gun. This guy didn't seem to do that well. What spacemanspiff was referring to as fantasy was your absolute knowledge of events about which in real life folks don't usually have absolute knowledge. Me, I am with you. I know who is and is not supposed to be in my home and those that matter to me know that if they wish to be in my home, they will let me know. There are intruders and there are guests. However, beyond that aspect, my knowledge gets awfully fuzzy at night, in the dark, with dark intruders. In the thread, it seemed like the homeowner did have this amazing absolute knowledge, or what I would call, total situational awareness. That isn't very realistic. For example, how did the homeowner know there were only 2 people in his house? He only discovered 2 in the house, but doesn't know if some have already gone upstairs. This is probably the #1 problem with scenarios. Often parameters are given as absolutes when a person who is at the receiving end of the crime has no idea as to whether the information he has at the time is actually complete. Here is a scenario from our local police that actually happened. An officer approached a man with a gun who was breaking into a car in the parking lot. The officer ordered the man to cease and show his hands. The man turned quickly and fired. The officer was well prepared. He was in uniform, wearing body armor, had a call in for backup, and already had his sights trained on the suspect, the singular suspect he reported breaking into the car. When the suspect moved, the officer shot him twice in the chest and the suspect went down. The suspect's shot went wide. As the suspect appeared to be still alive, the officer approached with his gun still drawn. His obvious goal was to disarm the suspect and secure him. That didn't happen. The officer was shot dead. Both the suspect and officer died. What happened? Unbeknownst to the officer, the suspect had a partner working in another part of the parking lot. The partner heard the officer giving orders to the suspect and knew his buddy was in trouble. With all of the officer's focus on the downed man with whom he had just exchanged shots, he apparently never saw or heard the accomplice walk up from behind and shoot him in the head with a shotgun. How could this happen with just one suspect? Simple. There was more than one and the officer had no way to know it. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

October 3, 2005, 06:23 PM	#4
BloodyBucket03 Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2005 Location: Wake Forest, North Carolina Posts: 188	That's why I have a few friends! This is the type of thing that all of us who own firearms must be prepared for. Intruders who are coming to rob a person's home can definitely be packing thats why I have a few friends named Mossberg,AR, and my buddy Glock 30. Anti Gunners better run to the firearms dealer and find yourself a companion too!! __________________ "Better to fight for something than live for nothing."-General George S. Patton "He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and "if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buyone.'' Luke 22:36

October 3, 2005, 05:09 PM	#1
leadcounsel Junior member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 2,119	Man shot in home by burglars -- IT DOES HAPPEN! It really does happen, and it happened here in Colorado just today! www.9news.com Colorado: DOUGLAS COUNTY - Masked intruders shot a man after he confronted them as they were leaving with stolen money. Additional Resources... Video: 9News Reporter Ginger Delgado says police are looking for three suspects after a homeowner was shot during a burglary. 9News at Noon. October 3, 2005. The 20-year-old victim called police around 12:40 a.m. Monday reporting an attempted burglary on the 13000 block of Mercury Drive in the Acres Green subdivision. When police arrived they found the man who'd been shot. He was transported to a local hospital where he remains in stable condition. Two other roommates who lived at the home weren't hurt. Investigators say the three suspects broke into the home through the garage. The victim said they were wearing ski masks and dark clothes. When sheriff's deputies arrived, they searched the area with a canine but couldn't track down the men. Another witness told investigators that they left the area in a dark colored sedan. Officials have not said how much money was taken from the home. Last edited by leadcounsel; October 3, 2005 at 08:15 PM.

October 3, 2005, 05:23 PM	#2
C Philip Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2005 Location: USA Posts: 784	Yes, it does happen. I bet that man is sitting in the hospital thinking how much he wished he had a gun when they broke in. Very unfortunate. I don't see how people can oppose law abiding citizens owning firearms after things like this have been happening for as long as we know. There has always been crime, that won't change.