6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer

stubbicatt · February 27, 2013, 05:59 PM

I haven't thought this thru completely, but I wonder with the recent 15 years or so interest in 6.5mm calibers for target shooting, has anybody thought to resurrect the 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer cartridge for this sort of shooting?

If not, why not?

I figure once the time comes for me, I'll try to assemble a 6.5x47 Lapua, just cuz it's cool, but I wonder why nobody has attempted the venerable M/S round?

Jim Watson · February 27, 2013, 06:00 PM

Oops, hair trigger.

Jim Watson · February 27, 2013, 06:03 PM

It is a small capacity case with an odd head diameter.
Why bother when you can have a .260, 6.5 Lap, 6.5 Creedmoor or assorted wildcats?

The .256 (6.5x54R Dutch Mannlicher) was well thought of in England, but that was over a hundred years ago.

James K · February 27, 2013, 09:02 PM

The 6.5 M-S had a lot of gunzine hype a while back with all sorts of rather exaggerated claims being made for its effectiveness. It is, needless to say, inferior to the 6.5 x 55 and even to the semi-wildcat 6.5-08.

Jim

PetahW · February 27, 2013, 10:01 PM

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The Mannlicher-Schoenauer Rifle or Carbine, OTOH, is a wonderful machine...............

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Scorch · February 28, 2013, 01:40 AM

6.5X54 had a good reputation for many years, partly because it was a low recoil cartridge and primarily because it was available in rifle with good handling attributes. Hemingway was fond of the round and wrote of its killing prowess in several of his stories (much of its killing ability was no doubt due to his marksmanship). In terms of ballistics, it is very similar to several other 6.5mm military cartridges, ballistics were very similar to the 250 Savage. Its inability to achieve the minimum ft-lbs of energy specified by the British led to its being dropped for medium game hunting by hunting professionals in the African countries controlled by the Britsh. In the US, its non-standard head size pretty much determined it was a non-starter, but those people who hunted with them really seemed to like them. As the magnum craze took off in the 1960s, it could not compete. If you want a 6.5mm, I would choose a more modern version.

stubbicatt · February 28, 2013, 08:41 AM

Is the 6.5 M/S considered a long action cartridge?

PetahW · February 28, 2013, 10:02 AM

Standard .30-06 length.

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February 27, 2013, 05:59 PM	#1
stubbicatt Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Posts: 1,707	6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer I haven't thought this thru completely, but I wonder with the recent 15 years or so interest in 6.5mm calibers for target shooting, has anybody thought to resurrect the 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer cartridge for this sort of shooting? If not, why not? I figure once the time comes for me, I'll try to assemble a 6.5x47 Lapua, just cuz it's cool, but I wonder why nobody has attempted the venerable M/S round?

February 27, 2013, 06:00 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,537	Oops, hair trigger. Last edited by Jim Watson; February 27, 2013 at 09:18 PM.

February 28, 2013, 01:40 AM	#6
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	6.5X54 had a good reputation for many years, partly because it was a low recoil cartridge and primarily because it was available in rifle with good handling attributes. Hemingway was fond of the round and wrote of its killing prowess in several of his stories (much of its killing ability was no doubt due to his marksmanship). In terms of ballistics, it is very similar to several other 6.5mm military cartridges, ballistics were very similar to the 250 Savage. Its inability to achieve the minimum ft-lbs of energy specified by the British led to its being dropped for medium game hunting by hunting professionals in the African countries controlled by the Britsh. In the US, its non-standard head size pretty much determined it was a non-starter, but those people who hunted with them really seemed to like them. As the magnum craze took off in the 1960s, it could not compete. If you want a 6.5mm, I would choose a more modern version. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

February 27, 2013, 06:03 PM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,537	It is a small capacity case with an odd head diameter. Why bother when you can have a .260, 6.5 Lap, 6.5 Creedmoor or assorted wildcats? The .256 (6.5x54R Dutch Mannlicher) was well thought of in England, but that was over a hundred years ago.

February 27, 2013, 09:02 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The 6.5 M-S had a lot of gunzine hype a while back with all sorts of rather exaggerated claims being made for its effectiveness. It is, needless to say, inferior to the 6.5 x 55 and even to the semi-wildcat 6.5-08. Jim

February 27, 2013, 10:01 PM	#5
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer Rifle or Carbine, OTOH, is a wonderful machine............... .

February 28, 2013, 08:41 AM	#7
stubbicatt Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Posts: 1,707	Is the 6.5 M/S considered a long action cartridge?

February 28, 2013, 10:02 AM	#8
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	Standard .30-06 length. .