Smartcarry while sitting down?

MikeGoob · January 13, 2009, 08:41 PM

Can you draw from a Smartcarry holster while sitting down? In a chair or while driving?

Doyle · January 13, 2009, 08:51 PM

I can't - but then I don't wear my pants really loose. That's why I take my pistol out and put it in the console when I'm driving.

Erik · January 14, 2009, 02:38 PM

I could not reliably draw other than from the ready while standing, and thus eventually mine made its way into the bin of discarded holsters.

While sitting, essentially the same thing; if I was ready to include staging my body just right, I was fast and reliable; but life just has a way of not always allowing for that.

Is it a viable deep concealment method? Yes. I have less of a need for deep concealment than I do for reliability, flexibility, and speed of access.

Erich · January 14, 2009, 03:39 PM

I have no problem doing so - the handgun remains vertical and I'm trim enough that I can knife-hand into the waistband of my trousers to draw the gun. My biggest issue with SmartCarry is that guns with longer butts tend to print awkwardly - I have relegated the SmartCarry holsters that I own (2 of them) to deep-cover carry with small handguns.

Sparks2112 · January 14, 2009, 04:28 PM

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guns with longer butts tend to print awkwardly

"Excuse me Sir, is that your gun or are you happy to see me?" awkwardly? Or "Oh my god that man has a horrible hernia!" awkwardly?

Musketeer · January 14, 2009, 04:43 PM

1. Being overweight reduces the ability to use a Smartcarry.

2. I have practiced drawing while seated. Lean back/scoot your butt forward slightly and it can be done reasonably quickly, even in the car, if you are in shape. If you absolutely need a fast draw and don't require deep concealment then Smart Carry is not for you.

3. To avoid printing while not dressing as a "Gangsta" choose pants with pleats and stay with darker colors which do not show bulges since shadows are not noticed.

Milspec · January 14, 2009, 05:30 PM

I don't have a SmartCarry but I've used a Desantis Belly Band riding low in front with my M&Pc just below belt level. I also carry a Kel-tec PF-9 w/rail laser in the handcuff pocket. Neither one can be seen and I can easily draw while seated, although I do loosen my belt & recline the seat just a bit...

Milspec

MikeGoob · January 15, 2009, 08:05 PM

Thanks for the responses!

Can a belly band holster at an angle?

Ratmachine · January 16, 2009, 11:52 PM

I 2nd the cupholder!

Erik · January 17, 2009, 10:54 AM

"Can a belly band holster at an angle?"

Some allow for it; it depends on how they are sewn.

nemoaz · January 17, 2009, 11:46 AM

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I 2nd the cupholder!

One of the lessons of the Miami FBI shooting is to not carry a weapon laying around in the interior. If you happen to get rammed or even make a panic stop, your pistol is now scooting along the floorboard, under a seat or out the door (once someone opens it) to who knows where.

One of the lessons of smartcarry is that it isn't smart.

Milspec · January 17, 2009, 12:24 PM

Quote: One of the lessons of smartcarry is that it isn't smart...

Maybe...but my wife's having a tough time finding a warm weather concealment holster that'll work for her Para .45 PDA. She hasn't tried a SmartCarry yet but it's advertised as being...uh......girl friendly...

Milspec

JasonG · January 21, 2009, 07:12 AM

Seatbelts do get in the way. That applies to any holster short of shoulder rigs though.
Notice the inventor is fairly trim, it doesn't work as well on larger people from what I've heard. Then again most IWBs don't.
If you have trouble drawing from a seated position, slipping to your dominant knee gives a much more stable shooting platform as well as a lower profile.

January 13, 2009, 08:41 PM	#1
MikeGoob Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2006 Posts: 876	Smartcarry while sitting down? Can you draw from a Smartcarry holster while sitting down? In a chair or while driving?

January 14, 2009, 02:38 PM	#3
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	I could not reliably draw other than from the ready while standing, and thus eventually mine made its way into the bin of discarded holsters. While sitting, essentially the same thing; if I was ready to include staging my body just right, I was fast and reliable; but life just has a way of not always allowing for that. Is it a viable deep concealment method? Yes. I have less of a need for deep concealment than I do for reliability, flexibility, and speed of access. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective Last edited by Erik; January 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM. Reason: Edited for that last line, upon furhter reflection.

January 14, 2009, 04:43 PM	#6
Musketeer Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2005 Posts: 3,733	1. Being overweight reduces the ability to use a Smartcarry. 2. I have practiced drawing while seated. Lean back/scoot your butt forward slightly and it can be done reasonably quickly, even in the car, if you are in shape. If you absolutely need a fast draw and don't require deep concealment then Smart Carry is not for you. 3. To avoid printing while not dressing as a "Gangsta" choose pants with pleats and stay with darker colors which do not show bulges since shadows are not noticed. __________________ "Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." Thomas Jefferson "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

January 14, 2009, 05:30 PM	#7
Milspec Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 117	I don't have a SmartCarry but I've used a Desantis Belly Band riding low in front with my M&Pc just below belt level. I also carry a Kel-tec PF-9 w/rail laser in the handcuff pocket. Neither one can be seen and I can easily draw while seated, although I do loosen my belt & recline the seat just a bit... Milspec __________________ "...there is no second place winner in a gunfight." Colonel Bill Jordan

January 16, 2009, 11:52 PM	#9
Ratmachine Junior Member Join Date: November 13, 2008 Location: St. Louis Posts: 11	I 2nd the cupholder! __________________ Giggity, Giggity, Giggity!

January 13, 2009, 08:51 PM	#2
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	I can't - but then I don't wear my pants really loose. That's why I take my pistol out and put it in the console when I'm driving.

January 14, 2009, 03:39 PM	#4
Erich Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 2,543	I have no problem doing so - the handgun remains vertical and I'm trim enough that I can knife-hand into the waistband of my trousers to draw the gun. My biggest issue with SmartCarry is that guns with longer butts tend to print awkwardly - I have relegated the SmartCarry holsters that I own (2 of them) to deep-cover carry with small handguns.

January 15, 2009, 08:05 PM	#8
MikeGoob Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2006 Posts: 876	Thanks for the responses! Can a belly band holster at an angle?

January 17, 2009, 10:54 AM	#10
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	"Can a belly band holster at an angle?" Some allow for it; it depends on how they are sewn. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

January 17, 2009, 12:24 PM	#12
Milspec Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 117	Quote: One of the lessons of smartcarry is that it isn't smart... Maybe...but my wife's having a tough time finding a warm weather concealment holster that'll work for her Para .45 PDA. She hasn't tried a SmartCarry yet but it's advertised as being...uh......girl friendly... Milspec __________________ "...there is no second place winner in a gunfight." Colonel Bill Jordan

January 21, 2009, 07:12 AM	#13
JasonG Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2008 Posts: 209	Seatbelts do get in the way. That applies to any holster short of shoulder rigs though. Notice the inventor is fairly trim, it doesn't work as well on larger people from what I've heard. Then again most IWBs don't. If you have trouble drawing from a seated position, slipping to your dominant knee gives a much more stable shooting platform as well as a lower profile. __________________ "Bones, what killed him ?" "Acute lead poisoning Jim....." ST-TOS#61