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September 28, 2011, 09:45 AM | #1 | |
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Shooting the Revolver - Army Style
I ran across a copy of the Army's manual of Cavalry Tactics from 1860 a while back. There's an appendix that contains "A Manual for Colt's Revolver".
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September 28, 2011, 11:04 AM | #2 |
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Cool.
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September 28, 2011, 04:03 PM | #3 |
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Hello, Hardcase. No wonder many troopers..especially southerners, carried multiple revolvers..How many could do that with whizzing minnie's and exploding shells on horseback!
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Most excellent!
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September 29, 2011, 11:21 AM | #5 |
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I have wondered....
.....how many horses were shot in the head accidently by a trooper who could not properly handle the revolver when the horse was moving at any speed higher than a walk.
I have also marvelled at the monumental amount of composure a cavalry horse had to maintain. I have been told that because of the shape of a horse's eye, they easily become excited. The idea is that the shape of the eye and lens causes all motion to be exagerated to the horse's sense. Consequently horses are easy to spook unless they are trained. I also have read that horses that are not properly trained are of absolutely no use as cavalry mounts. I know that in the Napoleonic wars, attrition in cavalry mounts was not supplemented by drawing from the numerous horses available in the baggage train because the draft horses simply could not do cavalry work. They may have been unsuitable for physical reasons too. (Not just temperament) I know there are horsemen in the group and I have been on a horse exactly two times in my life. Both times turned out bad and so I just figured it would be a good idea to worship from afar.
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September 29, 2011, 02:52 PM | #6 |
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Thanks for the information, very interesting.
If you want an adventure, try shooting off the back of a horse. I frankly don't see how this was done, but of course, we know it was. Even Hollywood can pull it off. Horses are like large pets, but then also like children. Every one of of them has a distinct personality, but since this isn't a "horse" forum, I'll hush. OJW |
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Howdy Doc Hoy..None other than George A. Custer managed that, while chasing buffalo away hell off yonder from command on prairie.
Came walking into camp carrying saddle. |
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The people who, all those millennia ago, domesticated horses and cattle were geniuses. I doubt if humans could have made the transition to civilizations without draft animals. |
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Were troopers expected to keep a sabre in the right hand and the pistol in the left and the reins held in their teeth?
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Sounds about right to me, Gary. I believe that the saber was the primary cavalry weapon in the early 1860s.
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October 2, 2011, 02:46 PM | #11 |
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Might help to explain why there are so many relics to be found on the old battle fields.
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Somewhere I read that there never was a documented case of an irregular Confederate cavalryman (Bushwhackers, Bloody Bill Anderson types) ever killed by a Union saber. The irregulars often carried several revolvers and shot there way out of any enemy cavalry engagement. The Union guys were taking a knife (saber) to a gunfight. It may be BS but so far of what I have read of bushwhacker types it makes sense.
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October 8, 2011, 08:58 PM | #13 |
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Why! You Can Shoot A Gun While Mounted on Any Hoss!
Well, at least ONE time!
The "Old Cavalry Method" to train horses to stand gunfire was to shoot a gun and then when the horse calmed down, give him some oats to eat. The trooper did this over and over again. After a while, the horse associated gunfire with FOOD and didn't Spook anymore. So, they still train horses that way.It works. |
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Good info Southron
Makes complete sense.
I know nothing about horses. Accept that I don't get long with them.
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October 11, 2011, 07:44 PM | #15 |
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I am curious, does it have a section on cleaning the revolver?
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October 12, 2011, 10:42 AM | #16 |
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It doesn't, Mike.
I found the book online, on Google Books - here's a link: http://books.google.com/books?id=0Dh...page&q&f=false The one that Google scanned is in a lot better shape than mine!
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October 12, 2011, 05:51 PM | #17 |
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Thanks for that link. I've bookmarked it for later reading.
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October 12, 2011, 07:10 PM | #18 |
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its strange no one has thought it odd that the manual instructs the shooter to bit open the end of each cartridge before inserting into the chamber. ive never seen that referenced anywhere else, and well not even the collectors of civil war cumbustable cartridges haveever stated that.
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Thanks Hardcase
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Given the right horse it's not that hard to train one to use as a shooting mount. Go see a Cowboy Mounted Shoot some time. I've owned several, out of 22, that were good to shoot off of.
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Given the right horse it's not that hard to train one to use as a shooting mount. Go see a Cowboy Mounted Shoot some time. I've owned several, out of 22, that were good to shoot off of.
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Shotgun, I've always wondered if it was the horse or the training. Horses are such strange critters, it would be easy to see how you'd have to find just the right one. They all have unique personalities, breeding, raising etc., so much goes into how they are going to react.
In history though, I don't know how that would work. It would seem that every horse in the South would have been pressed into duty during The War. Did you say only a couple out of 22 could be trained to gunshots? Thanks. |
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It's was referenced as recently as Februrary 11, 2011 that Civil War recruits could be refused entry into service if they have didn't have enough good teeth. It was stated that was because teeth were necessary for tearing open paper cartridges. The quotes below are from the following thread: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...ighlight=teeth Quote:
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October 13, 2011, 08:15 PM | #24 |
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everyone knows about the front teeth rule for pulling open teeth. in fact, its still one of the mandatory questions a military recruiter asks you.
ive just never seen ripping open cumbustible cartridges for revolvers mentioned before in period material. |
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