The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 4, 2013, 04:19 PM   #1
LSU
Member
 
Join Date: May 12, 2013
Posts: 38
#2 Alloy in Lyman Manual - need a comparison

Please compare hardness in #2 Alloy versus S&S .45 ACP LRN 230 grain.

Thanks.
LSU is offline  
Old August 4, 2013, 04:37 PM   #2
jepp2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 24, 2008
Location: Loveland, CO
Posts: 1,476
Lyman #2 is very similar to 92 2 6 alloy that SNS uses. BHN is 16.

link
__________________
NRA Benefactor Life member
jepp2 is offline  
Old August 4, 2013, 05:13 PM   #3
LSU
Member
 
Join Date: May 12, 2013
Posts: 38
Thanks Jepp but could you break that down into English with a little simpler explanation?

Also is Lyman #2 a brand name?

Again, thanks for the quick response.
LSU is offline  
Old August 4, 2013, 05:27 PM   #4
jepp2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 24, 2008
Location: Loveland, CO
Posts: 1,476
Lyman #2 was an alloy commonly used. It defines a BHN that can be varied based on who the bullet is quenched. The link I listed:

Description

Hardball Bullet Casting Alloy consists of 2% tin, 6% antimony and 92% lead. Each ingot measure approximately 8-1/2" x 1" x 2" and weighs 6 pounds and has 4 Notched blocks that are easy to cut through on the low sections

This modern version of the old Lyman #2 is an excellent all-around alloy for most handgun bullets and many higher velocity rifle cartridges. The Brinell Hardness of Hardball Alloy is about 16.


Is an alloy commonly available today. It consists of 92% lead, 2% tin, and 6% antimony. Air cooled it normally runs around 16 Brinell hardness number. That is the alloy SNS Casting uses for all of their bullets. It is considered "hard cast" and to get the bullet to obtruate properly requires higher pressure than pure lead. I normally try to run them in the 23K to 30K PSI pressure range.
__________________
NRA Benefactor Life member
jepp2 is offline  
Old August 4, 2013, 05:42 PM   #5
dahermit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 28, 2006
Location: South Central Michigan...near
Posts: 6,501
Quote:
Also is Lyman #2 a brand name?
Not in the context to which you refer. Lyman #2 was the name for a formula. Lyman was a major, if not the major authority on bullet casting at one time. The major constituents of bullet alloys (Lead, Tin, and Antimony), could be alloyed virtually in any proportions. The alloys of Lyman #1,#2, and #3 was an attempt to set an arbitrary standard for cast bullet alloys. Lyman #2 was the hardest of the three and other posters have given the make up of that alloy. Lyman would include a sheet with their bullet molds that told how a caster could approximate the Number 2 alloy with so many parts of solder, pure lead and wheel weights, etc. The exact size of bullet as dropped from a Lyman mold was based on Lyman #2.
dahermit is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.05040 seconds with 10 queries