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June 1, 2010, 11:54 AM | #1 | |
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Obama Serves 14-State Governors with Warnings of Arrest
http://parkersburgwvteaparty.ning.co...tate-governors
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1. Can a federalized NG soldier legally defect to join a State Guard? 2. Can anyone cite the sections of the Patriot Act that make the dissemination of NSL's to the public by these governors, illegal? 3. Can anyone present a copy of one of these NSL's, or at least a verbatim of the text, so we can have some veracity of the claims here that Obama indeed threatened Governors with Treason for enrolling the State Guards when our military is stretched out around the world and domestic security is thin? 4. Has this been debunked before? Snopes has nothing on it. ETA: Pre-empting the "non-firearms related" question, just in case: State Guard versus National Guard. NG obviously has aircraft, armor, and significant federal funding. SG, just like any state/municipal police department, can get automatic weapons. I've yet to hear of a State Guard actually mustering to train, however. I would expect these State Guards to be nothing more than a redundant list of police officers and such, rather than actual lay folks with a penchant for 10th amendment support. More of a political tool that looks bigger than it actually is. Anyone from one of these states able to clarify the "State Guard" role? AZ has both a State Guard and we also have the Arizona Rangers... The State Guard still has a commander but has no enlisted men to my knowledge. The Arizona Rangers were disbanded in the early part of the 20th century and are now basically a cowboy/lawman support group of volunteers. Last edited by azredhawk44; June 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM. |
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June 1, 2010, 12:10 PM | #2 |
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I can't answer any of your questions, but I would like to applaud you for your reaction of skepticism. Too often in the gun community people read something like that and immediately take it as an undeniable truth. Then they write emails to their friends asking them to forward it. Then we have the UN-Treaty debacle. Again, I apologize for being of no help. Just wanted to say thanks for not forwarding that to all your buddies as fact without verifying it first.
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June 1, 2010, 12:39 PM | #3 | ||
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June 1, 2010, 12:52 PM | #4 |
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Well, mikejonestkd has informed me via PM that Lyle Rapacki's credentials are certainly to be questioned.
Evidently he has either invented non-existent schools he supposedly attended to get various masters or doctoral degrees, or claimed to have served the various States in ways that he actually hasn't. The AZ State Supreme Court even gave him an injunction to stop claiming he as a faculty member of the Supreme Court. http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.htm...&c=whs&id=4800 I'm dumping an entire box of Morton's Salt in with this one... but I'm still interested in hearing the facts of the matter rather than the facts of the writer's background. |
June 1, 2010, 01:32 PM | #5 |
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If you go to the web page containing this article, the link to the news source that they are allegedly quoting just produces a blank page.
So this report does look totally bogus to me. . |
June 1, 2010, 02:08 PM | #6 |
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The States have had the authority to raise and maintain a militia since before the Constitution was chartered, and has had it all along. And the US Constitution does not give the US Government authority to "authorize" states to form militias with a law, the Constitution protects the State's power to do so.
Our current Army and National Guard are in violation of the Constitution, where as a standing army is a threat to the People. If this news report is true about Obama serving warning to Governors of the States, we all need to take heed and prepare for a federal government turning against the people and the states. |
June 1, 2010, 05:32 PM | #7 | |
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What's sad is that there is not enough trust in our federal officials for us to debunk this on its face. Who trusts the Obama administration enough to say, "There's no way this can be true!". Certainly not I. However, I will wait patiently and read what I can find about this before I cast a "guilty as charged" vote on the Obama administration in regards to the NSL's .
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June 1, 2010, 05:47 PM | #8 |
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If you are going to post something that is most likely to be a fraud or nuts - want to check it out before posting it?
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