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November 26, 2012, 04:36 PM | #1 |
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What happens in a fire? (ammo)
Many times we have discussions about how to store ammo in our houses. Take a look at this video put out by SAMMI;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=3SlOXowwC4c Also, see what happens if a single shell is fired OUTSIDE of a gun,(without being chambered). All those doomsday-myth repeaters can go soak their heads now! The movie industry should maybe learn something here as well. There is NOT a massive explosion.
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November 26, 2012, 04:53 PM | #2 |
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Saw this video a few years ago and it's a good one. Producers of the new Bond film must have missed it as they were using 12ga shells as landmine/boobytraps this time around.
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November 26, 2012, 04:56 PM | #3 |
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Mythbusters did a show on that and concluded there's no dangers with ammo unless it's in a gun.
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November 26, 2012, 05:09 PM | #4 |
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Terrific video, thank you!! William
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November 26, 2012, 07:33 PM | #5 |
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seen that type stuff up close and personal. No boom. Black powder ammo is another storry. It does go boom.
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November 26, 2012, 08:00 PM | #6 |
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Yea I had always figued by the lack of "house fire causes neighbors for miles around to be shot, again!" headlines that ammo isnt really dangerous in a fire .
That vid was sweet though, thanks for posting it! Last edited by dacaur; November 26, 2012 at 08:14 PM. |
November 26, 2012, 10:39 PM | #7 |
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Mods, since this is a frequent topic of discussion, and certainly a good one, how about pinning this?
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November 26, 2012, 11:02 PM | #8 |
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So whats up with the F'N Hazmat fees ?
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November 27, 2012, 01:23 AM | #9 | |
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This did not answer the concern of some with storing ammo in sealed ammo cans, or powder/primers. Again, SAMMI is not concerned with it. Get mythbusters to do a program on it. My suspicion is it would be similar to the open air results in the video. In order for shells in an ammo can to be a bomb, ALL the ammo would have to cook-off at precisely the same time to be a problem. That would be just plain impossible.
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Oh how i wish they would have tested a few different 1 and 8 lbs canisters of powder and some black powder cartridges as well. I really enjoyed the clip but sure wish i had the Raw Haw in my pocket that was cooked off in the film.
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November 27, 2012, 07:15 PM | #13 |
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After watching Frank trim his eyelashes i watched this,
If you can withstand the drivel, the dude makes a couple small batches and lights them up. My question, Why is it burning so slowly or is his recipe wrong?? I would like to drop a book on that slow burning pile to see if things speed up a bit.
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That's how I understand it anyway, I'm certainly NOT going to try it myself.
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November 27, 2012, 08:27 PM | #15 |
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I always said that a good ole can of beenie weenies is more dangerous in a campfire than ammunition. Until you see a 38 special thrown into a fire and hear the pop and see the flash, most will not believe it is lackluster. Now put a can of beenie weenies on the fire and you have flaming and super hot beans and wieners flying everywhere....wait that doesn't sound good, but trust me, not a good idea....
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November 27, 2012, 09:55 PM | #16 |
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I always thought you had to drink booze and pee into the matrix to make real Black Powder.
I'd like to see some .50 cal cans burned with ammo and also ones with just components in them to satisfy some of the safety orientated opinions out there. |
November 27, 2012, 10:44 PM | #17 |
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Camping as a kid, I went to stoke the fire one morning and dumped and unknown number of .22's into the coals below. Cases looked like popcorn, did blow the hot coals around a bit.
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Smokeless powder is highly flammable, just like kerosene. Primers, in quantity (not individualized like in loaded cartridges) are handled as explosives. Use Google to look up "HazMat" or "Hazardous Materials" and "Shipping Hazmat" and wade through the regulations (you have my sympathies). Now, understand the HazMat rules/laws have nothing to do with the fees. Complying with the regulations/laws gives the shippers something to charge us for. It does cost them some extra effort (cost) to comply. Lost Sheep |
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November 28, 2012, 09:22 AM | #19 |
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Why is it gunpowder doesnt seem to be dangerous until you add the HUMAN ?
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November 28, 2012, 10:21 AM | #20 |
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The People for the Ethical Triggering of Ammunition are probably outraged by the senseless slaughter of good ammunition, but the video seems to have made good points.
However, if I were a firefighter, I would want to see what a GI ammo can filled with handloads would do in a fire. Those are quite common in households with shooters, and are even supplied (and shipped) filled with some commercial ammo from places like "Cheaper Than Dirt." Although SAAMI is not responsible for that practice, it could seriously affect their business. By leaving it unaddressed, I fear they are leaving the field open for some anti-gun organizations or governments to conduct their own "tests" in what might be a biased manner. Remember the "news" network that was caught rigging explosions for rear-end accidents with a car model that they were maligning, because "the real fires were not spectacular enough" for prime-time news broadcasts? SL1 |
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We had a gun shop/indoor range go up in flames about 2 years ago. I know the place always had tons of ammo in stock. It basically all went off like firecrackers. Without anything to contain and direct the pressure and bullet, there really isn't much that happens. I'm sure all the powder was a pain for the firefighters.
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