Rare Ruger pistol?

HisSoldier · November 18, 2011, 02:10 PM

I didn't take photos! The pistol is supposedly previous to even the red eagle model 1's the grip panels had no logo of any kind, and seemed an odd shape to me, target rear sights and brass blade front, which the owner said came with it "So you can file it". The barrel is 3 3/4" long which he said doubles the value. I may be able to get photo's later, but have to show more interest than I want to at the time. It is definitely a Ruger .22 standard model, but odd looking and obviously early. I can't find photos of it anywhere, nor any info on a 3 3/4" barreled Ruger standard model pistol. Can anyone direct me to a site for rare Ruger auto's?

RJay · November 18, 2011, 07:35 PM

For starters , if the grips do not have either a red or black Eagle ( later after Sturm passed ) then the grips are replacement. Ruger, to he best of my knowledge never used brass front sights. I am far from being a Ruger expert but it sounds like the gentleman is a snake oil sales man.The Red Eagle grips are valuable with in them self and many have been removed to go on E-Bay. Could be wrong, been wrong before and will be wrong in the future

claymore1500 · November 18, 2011, 07:58 PM

By "standard model" I assume that you mean a single action, I do not recall ruger ever making a 3.75 inch bbl on any of thier SA's, also the brass blade front sight seems odd.

Also I agree with the post claiming "replacement grips" ruger has always (as far as I know)had thier logo in some from or another, on thier grips.

NOTE: I just reread your post, I didn't notice the request for a link to rare ruger "auto's" my bad, but, my opinion still stands

claymore1500 · November 18, 2011, 08:11 PM

HTTP://hunting.about.com/od/guns/1/aast50rugersa.htm

Try the link above, it is a history of ruger autos.

HisSoldier · November 18, 2011, 08:23 PM

Thanks gents, I had started to think the guy played loose with the facts.

James K · November 18, 2011, 11:09 PM

Ruger's early production models had the red eagle logo (left side only) and a steel front sight. But there were pre-production models with no logo and even with plain wood grips. A brass sight blade is a fairly common pre-production item for fixed sight guns so the sight can be filed easily to determine the right height for the produciton gun.

So is the seller full of it? Maybe, maybe not. I would like to see pictures if possible.

Jim

PetahW · November 20, 2011, 06:07 PM

FWIW, the Ruger Standard Model was their basic 9-shot .22LR semi-auto pistol w/4" tapered bbl & fixed sights, that soon evolved into the Mark I, Mark II, & now the Mark III.

.

HisSoldier · November 22, 2011, 10:36 PM

I really need to take photos, I could see the genealogy, but sure looked weird. I don't know the guy though. He had full auto trigger groups for AK's and that made me feel strange too. It may technically be legal when kept apart but gives me the creeps.

Bill DeShivs · November 23, 2011, 03:00 AM

The Ruger standard model frame was very similar to a drill that Sturm-Ruger made in the 1950s.

PetahW · November 26, 2011, 07:14 PM

FWIW, This is a very early Standard Model, originally packed/shipped in a salt cod (fish) box.

Ruger made tools B 4 pistols, ca 1947-49:

.

November 18, 2011, 02:10 PM	#1
HisSoldier Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2007 Location: Oregoncoast Posts: 1,793	Rare Ruger pistol? I didn't take photos! The pistol is supposedly previous to even the red eagle model 1's the grip panels had no logo of any kind, and seemed an odd shape to me, target rear sights and brass blade front, which the owner said came with it "So you can file it". The barrel is 3 3/4" long which he said doubles the value. I may be able to get photo's later, but have to show more interest than I want to at the time. It is definitely a Ruger .22 standard model, but odd looking and obviously early. I can't find photos of it anywhere, nor any info on a 3 3/4" barreled Ruger standard model pistol. Can anyone direct me to a site for rare Ruger auto's? __________________ CNC produced 416 stainless triggers to replace the plastic triggers on Colt Mustangs, Mustang Plus II's, MK IV Government .380's and Sig P238's and P938's. Plus Colt Mustang hardened 416 guide rods, and Llama .32 and .380 recoil spring buttons, checkered nicely and blued.

November 18, 2011, 07:35 PM	#2
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	For starters , if the grips do not have either a red or black Eagle ( later after Sturm passed ) then the grips are replacement. Ruger, to he best of my knowledge never used brass front sights. I am far from being a Ruger expert but it sounds like the gentleman is a snake oil sales man.The Red Eagle grips are valuable with in them self and many have been removed to go on E-Bay. Could be wrong, been wrong before and will be wrong in the future __________________ Ron James

November 18, 2011, 07:58 PM	#3
claymore1500 Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2008 Location: northcoast, Ohio Posts: 260	By "standard model" I assume that you mean a single action, I do not recall ruger ever making a 3.75 inch bbl on any of thier SA's, also the brass blade front sight seems odd. Also I agree with the post claiming "replacement grips" ruger has always (as far as I know)had thier logo in some from or another, on thier grips. NOTE: I just reread your post, I didn't notice the request for a link to rare ruger "auto's" my bad, but, my opinion still stands __________________ Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Last edited by claymore1500; November 19, 2011 at 11:44 AM.

November 18, 2011, 08:11 PM	#4
claymore1500 Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2008 Location: northcoast, Ohio Posts: 260	HTTP://hunting.about.com/od/guns/1/aast50rugersa.htm Try the link above, it is a history of ruger autos. __________________ Where there's a will, I want to be in it.

November 18, 2011, 08:23 PM	#5
HisSoldier Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2007 Location: Oregoncoast Posts: 1,793	Thanks gents, I had started to think the guy played loose with the facts. __________________ CNC produced 416 stainless triggers to replace the plastic triggers on Colt Mustangs, Mustang Plus II's, MK IV Government .380's and Sig P238's and P938's. Plus Colt Mustang hardened 416 guide rods, and Llama .32 and .380 recoil spring buttons, checkered nicely and blued.

November 18, 2011, 11:09 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Ruger's early production models had the red eagle logo (left side only) and a steel front sight. But there were pre-production models with no logo and even with plain wood grips. A brass sight blade is a fairly common pre-production item for fixed sight guns so the sight can be filed easily to determine the right height for the produciton gun. So is the seller full of it? Maybe, maybe not. I would like to see pictures if possible. Jim

November 20, 2011, 06:07 PM	#7
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	FWIW, the Ruger Standard Model was their basic 9-shot .22LR semi-auto pistol w/4" tapered bbl & fixed sights, that soon evolved into the Mark I, Mark II, & now the Mark III. .

November 22, 2011, 10:36 PM	#8
HisSoldier Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2007 Location: Oregoncoast Posts: 1,793	I really need to take photos, I could see the genealogy, but sure looked weird. I don't know the guy though. He had full auto trigger groups for AK's and that made me feel strange too. It may technically be legal when kept apart but gives me the creeps. __________________ CNC produced 416 stainless triggers to replace the plastic triggers on Colt Mustangs, Mustang Plus II's, MK IV Government .380's and Sig P238's and P938's. Plus Colt Mustang hardened 416 guide rods, and Llama .32 and .380 recoil spring buttons, checkered nicely and blued.

November 23, 2011, 03:00 AM	#9
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	The Ruger standard model frame was very similar to a drill that Sturm-Ruger made in the 1950s. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

November 26, 2011, 07:14 PM	#10
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	FWIW, This is a very early Standard Model, originally packed/shipped in a salt cod (fish) box. Ruger made tools B 4 pistols, ca 1947-49: . Last edited by PetahW; November 26, 2011 at 07:19 PM.