What out of the box with no work done on it pistol would you buy

Michael Wilson · May 25, 2011, 10:12 PM

OK just like I said out of the box with no work done to it and if something breaks you had to make/fix the part yourself or it does not work. So I'm talking you only have the one pistol and if anything breaks you can't just take it to a gunsmith to be fixed.
So the thing is one that is super reliable to start with and easy to work on and disassemble all the parts. Thanks

youngunz4life · May 25, 2011, 10:19 PM

if it was free I have always wanted an authentic, matching set of english or belgian dualing pistols

gearhounds · May 25, 2011, 10:21 PM

Out of the box, with maximum reliability and longevity- I think maybe some specifics might help narrow it down. A lot of major manufacturers will fit the bill, so be prepared for a lot of brand supporting flag waving on this one. Starting with me- any Sig Classic or from the Glock family.

**Aguila Blanca** · May 25, 2011, 10:27 PM

Easy - Colt 1991 series Combat Commander, in blue. Model O4691

Boats · May 25, 2011, 11:56 PM

A 1911A1 with a Series 70 firing pin system and no full length guide rod. It is not rocket science to detail strip or fit small parts on a 1911—so much so that most things are pretty much "drop in" if you understand the platform and how its parts interact.

Building one from the ground up is a whole other topic, but becoming your own "depot level" expert is not difficult to master.

Mastifflover · May 26, 2011, 12:13 AM

I'm not mechanically inclined by any means but if anything were to break on one of my Glocks I could have the part replaced and the gun running again in 10-15 minutes with no hand fitting required.

glockcompact · May 26, 2011, 12:17 AM

I'll take one of my Glocks

Edward429451 · May 26, 2011, 12:17 AM

A 1911 is what popped into my head when I read the title. For the reasons already noted.

BrittB · May 26, 2011, 06:43 AM

Sig or Glock although it's hard to beat a Ruger Security Six.

darkgael · May 26, 2011, 06:44 AM

A flintlock pistol.
Or an under hammer percussion pistol - only two moving parts.

Pete

PS - My Colt Gold Cup has at least 60K rounds through it and no breakage or down time at all.

jtb1967 · May 26, 2011, 06:52 AM

A Glock. They're simple to work on and seldom break.

Morgo · May 26, 2011, 06:58 AM

Ruger MKII 22/45 - Over 40 000 rounds and no parts broken or replaced.

STI Trojan - Out of the box good to go with over 30 000 rounds, no mods, no breakages and only usual springs replaced every so often.

Amin Parker · May 26, 2011, 07:06 AM

I would say a mil spec 1911 from a reputable manufacturer. It is such a single design and parts can be made if anything breaks.

I suspect it would be harder to fashion something out of polymer than steel if i was gonna do it myself though.

CajunBass · May 26, 2011, 08:13 AM

It's something I just wouldn't worry about. I have never had a gun break. Never. I know they do, but in the situation you've described, I'm not going to be shooting 50,000 rounds a year. I'd worry a lot more about ammo than I would my gun breaking. I'd expect just about anything to last me for all intents and purposes, forever.

Especially if it was a Ruger standard 22.

dlb435 · May 26, 2011, 08:25 AM

I've had guns break, blow up, small parts go missing, hard to put back together and turn to rust balls after getting salt water on them. I've rebuilt, re-blued and repaired many of them.
Your best bet is a Glock. Easy to take down, easy to clean, will stand up to almost all abuse. Shoots OK out of the box and is ultra reliable. Just don't limp wrist it when you shoot and don't use wimpy loads.

warpig602 · May 26, 2011, 08:29 AM

Sig or HK

JustThisGuy · May 26, 2011, 08:33 AM

Sig Sauer P226/228/229. Very simple to work on, very reliable, very accurate.

BGutzman · May 26, 2011, 08:51 AM

SIG or HK as above...

hogcowboy · May 26, 2011, 09:00 AM

If you have to make a part that breaks yourself, I think I'd go with a Bond Arms Snake Slayer in 45 Colt. Not many parts to break and if they did you could fashion one pretty easy. That's the only one that comes to mind for me.

Dashunde · May 26, 2011, 11:27 AM

Glock... parts are mail-order and self-install.

mavracer · May 26, 2011, 11:35 AM

when I think of guns that I'd want to trust to last without failure the first couple that comes to mind would be
A Colt Combat elite or similar 1911 one with GI ish tolarances but I want a beaver tail and good sights.
Ruger P series they're built like tanks.
However the first gun that came to mind for this wasn't a new gun but a surplus makarov IMHO a simple and robust design.

Rampant_Colt · May 26, 2011, 11:46 AM

Glock or Ruger GP100

Most 1911s are ammo finicky with JHP; especially G.I.-spec versions without any feedramp polishing. They typically only function using FMJ. I find that to be a distinct disadvantage when Glocks will shoot anything you load 'em with.

.357 Magnum revolvers have the ability to use .38 Special ammo

jmr40 · May 26, 2011, 11:50 AM

Glock or 1911

Dino. · May 26, 2011, 11:55 AM

+1 for Glock or 1911.

Mrgunsngear · May 26, 2011, 12:18 PM

Glock 17, hands down. The 9mm has minimal recoil (and wear on gun) and there are countless examples of the almost unbelievable durability of this gun. I have one and love it; never an issue.

May 25, 2011, 10:12 PM	#1
Michael Wilson Member Join Date: October 10, 2009 Location: N. Texas Posts: 42	What out of the box with no work done on it pistol would you buy OK just like I said out of the box with no work done to it and if something breaks you had to make/fix the part yourself or it does not work. So I'm talking you only have the one pistol and if anything breaks you can't just take it to a gunsmith to be fixed. So the thing is one that is super reliable to start with and easy to work on and disassemble all the parts. Thanks __________________ GOD Bless and Semper FI Last edited by JohnKSa; May 25, 2011 at 10:13 PM. Reason: zombie-ectomy

May 25, 2011, 10:19 PM	#2
youngunz4life Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2010 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,877	unfortunately you did say 'buy' though if it was free I have always wanted an authentic, matching set of english or belgian dualing pistols __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -Admiral Farragut @ Battle of Mobile Bay 05AUG1864

May 25, 2011, 10:21 PM	#3
gearhounds Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2011 Location: M'burg WV Posts: 332	Out of the box, with maximum reliability and longevity- I think maybe some specifics might help narrow it down. A lot of major manufacturers will fit the bill, so be prepared for a lot of brand supporting flag waving on this one. Starting with me- any Sig Classic or from the Glock family. __________________ Busting thugs since 1992

May 26, 2011, 12:13 AM	#6
Mastifflover Member Join Date: November 10, 2007 Posts: 84	Glock I'm not mechanically inclined by any means but if anything were to break on one of my Glocks I could have the part replaced and the gun running again in 10-15 minutes with no hand fitting required.

May 26, 2011, 12:17 AM	#7
glockcompact Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2010 Location: Colorado, United States of America Posts: 396	I'll take one of my Glocks __________________ Look I like glocks. I've owned Sig's, HK's, 1911's, S&W, and other fine pistols but Glocks have been a favorite for me. Handguns without safeties are not dangerous. Idiots are dangerous.

May 25, 2011, 10:27 PM	#4
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	Easy - Colt 1991 series Combat Commander, in blue. Model O4691

May 25, 2011, 11:56 PM	#5
Boats Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 964	A 1911A1 with a Series 70 firing pin system and no full length guide rod. It is not rocket science to detail strip or fit small parts on a 1911—so much so that most things are pretty much "drop in" if you understand the platform and how its parts interact. Building one from the ground up is a whole other topic, but becoming your own "depot level" expert is not difficult to master.

May 26, 2011, 12:17 AM	#8
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	A 1911 is what popped into my head when I read the title. For the reasons already noted.

May 26, 2011, 06:43 AM	#9
BrittB Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 554	Sig or Glock although it's hard to beat a Ruger Security Six.

May 26, 2011, 06:44 AM	#10
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	Hmmm A flintlock pistol. Or an under hammer percussion pistol - only two moving parts. Pete PS - My Colt Gold Cup has at least 60K rounds through it and no breakage or down time at all. __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member Last edited by darkgael; May 26, 2011 at 07:02 AM.

May 26, 2011, 06:52 AM	#11
jtb1967 Junior member Join Date: September 29, 2004 Location: WV Posts: 454	A Glock. They're simple to work on and seldom break.

May 26, 2011, 06:58 AM	#12
Morgo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 471	Ruger MKII 22/45 - Over 40 000 rounds and no parts broken or replaced. STI Trojan - Out of the box good to go with over 30 000 rounds, no mods, no breakages and only usual springs replaced every so often.

May 26, 2011, 07:06 AM	#13
Amin Parker Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2010 Posts: 1,118	I would say a mil spec 1911 from a reputable manufacturer. It is such a single design and parts can be made if anything breaks. I suspect it would be harder to fashion something out of polymer than steel if i was gonna do it myself though. __________________ Every shooter should know what it feels like to hit a Bowling Pin in the sweet spot and see that sucker fly. Consider a CZ pistol before you decide.

May 26, 2011, 08:13 AM	#14
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,767	It's something I just wouldn't worry about. I have never had a gun break. Never. I know they do, but in the situation you've described, I'm not going to be shooting 50,000 rounds a year. I'd worry a lot more about ammo than I would my gun breaking. I'd expect just about anything to last me for all intents and purposes, forever. Especially if it was a Ruger standard 22. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

May 26, 2011, 08:25 AM	#15
dlb435 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2009 Posts: 654	I've had guns break, blow up, small parts go missing, hard to put back together and turn to rust balls after getting salt water on them. I've rebuilt, re-blued and repaired many of them. Your best bet is a Glock. Easy to take down, easy to clean, will stand up to almost all abuse. Shoots OK out of the box and is ultra reliable. Just don't limp wrist it when you shoot and don't use wimpy loads.

May 26, 2011, 08:29 AM	#16
warpig602 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2011 Location: Phoenix, Az......now Iowa Posts: 191	Sig or HK

May 26, 2011, 08:33 AM	#17
JustThisGuy Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Posts: 311	Sig Sauer P226/228/229. Very simple to work on, very reliable, very accurate. __________________ JustThisGuy Mediocrity dominates over excellence in all things... except excellence.

May 26, 2011, 08:51 AM	#18
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	SIG or HK as above... __________________ Molon Labe

May 26, 2011, 09:00 AM	#19
hogcowboy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Location: N33 32.941 W 97 53.546 Texas Posts: 231	If you have to make a part that breaks yourself, I think I'd go with a Bond Arms Snake Slayer in 45 Colt. Not many parts to break and if they did you could fashion one pretty easy. That's the only one that comes to mind for me. __________________ Do things as if your life depends on it. It COULD! American Legion Rider Last edited by hogcowboy; May 26, 2011 at 05:44 PM.

May 26, 2011, 11:27 AM	#20
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	Glock... parts are mail-order and self-install.

May 26, 2011, 11:46 AM	#22
Rampant_Colt Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 1,478	Glock or Ruger GP100 Most 1911s are ammo finicky with JHP; especially G.I.-spec versions without any feedramp polishing. They typically only function using FMJ. I find that to be a distinct disadvantage when Glocks will shoot anything you load 'em with. .357 Magnum revolvers have the ability to use .38 Special ammo __________________ member of an elite paramilitary organization: Eagle Scouts

May 26, 2011, 11:50 AM	#23
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,809	Glock or 1911

May 26, 2011, 11:55 AM	#24
Dino. Junior member Join Date: November 2, 2006 Posts: 908	+1 for Glock or 1911.

May 26, 2011, 12:18 PM	#25
Mrgunsngear Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2011 Location: Carolina Posts: 3,415	Glock 17 Glock 17, hands down. The 9mm has minimal recoil (and wear on gun) and there are countless examples of the almost unbelievable durability of this gun. I have one and love it; never an issue.