Walther PP .22 LR

GerardoPlata · June 8, 2013, 08:55 PM

Hello my father passed away and left me a few guns, including a Walther PP .22 LR gun. I would like to know how much it can be worth. It has eagles engraved in various parts, and it does not say "Made in Germany" it actually doesn't say where it was made. My dad bought it in Germany in the 60's, but he used to say that it was previos to WWII. I'm sorry if I don't provide much detail, I am no expert in the subject, and any opinion will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

jlr2267 · June 8, 2013, 09:32 PM

Pictures would be helpful.

Winchester_73 · June 8, 2013, 09:37 PM

A serial number would tell us when it was made. They were available in 22lr before WWII.

Webleymkv · June 8, 2013, 09:37 PM

The eagles you mention sound like they're probably Nazi proof marks. The Walther PP was only ever made in two countries: Germany and France. If the gun is pre-WWII, then it's almost certainly a German-made pistol. A relatively easy way to tell the difference between a pre-WWII and post WWII Walther PP series gun is the arc of the safety. Pre-war guns have a 90 degree arc to the safety lever, but it was changed to a 60 degree arc shortly after the war.

GerardoPlata · June 9, 2013, 11:18 AM

Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge and answering this post so fast! I am attaching a picture so you can tell me what you think. It has a serial number 27769LR. For what Webleymkv says, I think it's post WWII because the safety lever does not go all the way down to a 90 degree position. Thanks again to all of you for your input.

GerardoPlata · June 9, 2013, 11:20 AM

I couldn't upload both pics on my post, but here's the other side. Best regards!

RJay · June 10, 2013, 03:24 PM

Made in 1967, even through it was made under license from Walther by Manurhin in France, it is considered to be German made by Walther ( Long story ). PPs in 22 LR caliber are very desirable and bring a premium, yours also seems to be in excellent condition. The current 2013 Catalog of Firearms lists your PP at 750 in excellent to 600 in very good. From what I've seen I believe those prices are about 20 percent too low, could be wrong, been wrong before

BTW, the use of the 60 degree safety began in 1938, so a pre-war PP or PPK could have and did have a 60 degree safety also , starting tin 1941 the Eagle over N became the standard ( previous was the Crown over N ) so it sounds like the OP is simply describing the modern German proof mark.

Fishbed77 · June 10, 2013, 04:23 PM

Nice Walther.

Much nicer than the new potmetal pistol Umarex is trying to pass off as a .22LR PPK/S.

GerardoPlata · June 10, 2013, 09:40 PM

For the info, you are real experts!

kcub · June 11, 2013, 11:00 AM

I bet it drives tacks. Mine does but its a west German ppk/s.

iGunny40 · June 11, 2013, 11:32 AM

Nice Gun I wish I could buy it!

June 8, 2013, 08:55 PM	#1
GerardoPlata Junior Member Join Date: June 8, 2013 Posts: 4	Walther PP .22 LR Hello my father passed away and left me a few guns, including a Walther PP .22 LR gun. I would like to know how much it can be worth. It has eagles engraved in various parts, and it does not say "Made in Germany" it actually doesn't say where it was made. My dad bought it in Germany in the 60's, but he used to say that it was previos to WWII. I'm sorry if I don't provide much detail, I am no expert in the subject, and any opinion will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

June 8, 2013, 09:32 PM	#2
jlr2267 Junior Member Join Date: January 2, 2013 Posts: 7	Re: Walther PP .22 LR Pictures would be helpful.

June 8, 2013, 09:37 PM	#3
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,863	A serial number would tell us when it was made. They were available in 22lr before WWII. __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

June 10, 2013, 03:24 PM	#7
RJay Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,936	Made in 1967, even through it was made under license from Walther by Manurhin in France, it is considered to be German made by Walther ( Long story ). PPs in 22 LR caliber are very desirable and bring a premium, yours also seems to be in excellent condition. The current 2013 Catalog of Firearms lists your PP at 750 in excellent to 600 in very good. From what I've seen I believe those prices are about 20 percent too low, could be wrong, been wrong before BTW, the use of the 60 degree safety began in 1938, so a pre-war PP or PPK could have and did have a 60 degree safety also , starting tin 1941 the Eagle over N became the standard ( previous was the Crown over N ) so it sounds like the OP is simply describing the modern German proof mark. __________________ Ron James Last edited by RJay; June 10, 2013 at 03:39 PM.

June 10, 2013, 09:40 PM	#9
GerardoPlata Junior Member Join Date: June 8, 2013 Posts: 4	Thanks a lot For the info, you are real experts!

June 8, 2013, 09:37 PM	#4
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	The eagles you mention sound like they're probably Nazi proof marks. The Walther PP was only ever made in two countries: Germany and France. If the gun is pre-WWII, then it's almost certainly a German-made pistol. A relatively easy way to tell the difference between a pre-WWII and post WWII Walther PP series gun is the arc of the safety. Pre-war guns have a 90 degree arc to the safety lever, but it was changed to a 60 degree arc shortly after the war.

June 10, 2013, 04:23 PM	#8
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Nice Walther. Much nicer than the new potmetal pistol Umarex is trying to pass off as a .22LR PPK/S.

June 11, 2013, 11:00 AM	#10
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	I bet it drives tacks. Mine does but its a west German ppk/s.

June 11, 2013, 11:32 AM	#11
iGunny40 Member Join Date: June 8, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 46	Nice Gun I wish I could buy it! __________________ Gun control Is like Trying to reduce drunk Driving by making It tougher for sober people to own cars!