Whats the point

700REM · July 21, 2009, 07:01 AM

Whats the point of having a forum if someone is going to lock every thread they dont agree on.Not everyone is going to agree on everything,thats called a debate.Theres no communication if one side just locks down a thread for no reason other than he/she dont like how a thread is going.If you dont agree with something on a thread,MOVE ON and dont comment on the thread.

ZeSpectre · July 21, 2009, 07:33 AM

What's the point in posting an off topic rant that you know will get closed?

lockedcj7 · July 21, 2009, 07:48 AM

Before the mods close this thread, I'll get my comments in.

There are lots of threads where people disagree and a healthy debate evolves over the course of the thread. Lots of people are looking for advice, experiences or opinions and they get what they came for.

The problem is that some people state facts that are just plain wrong, give advice that is dangerous or advocate breaking laws. When that happens, others of us feel compelled to correct the misinformation before a neophyte takes the advice and gets hurt... or worse.

Sometimes these threads take a turn toward name-calling and character assassination and the mods step in before it turns into an all-out flame war.

Sometimes the threads are specifically intended to start a flame war and the mods step in quickly.

Sometimes the threads are purely political and have nothing to do with guns or gun ownership. There are other forums for that. Closed.

Sometimes the question has been asked and answered. The thread has gotten hijacked or has strayed far off the OP's point. Closed.

I think the mods here are aggressive but not heavy-handed. I've been on other forums that are much more loosely moderated and it ends up being a profanity-filled slug-fest. I'd much rather have a civilized discussion than a bar brawl. That's why I'm here.

ZeroJunk · July 21, 2009, 08:41 AM

The mods are concerned about the perceived civility, character, etc. of the hunting, gun owning community by others who might view these forums.
Most have been doing it a long time and know when they want to keep something from getting beaten to death, again.

a7mmnut · July 21, 2009, 10:10 AM

This is one of the most over-moderated sites on the whole 'net!

Most of us are using other, more tolerant sites for continuing sagas.

Shop around, most of the names will appear to be familiar to you.

This site will be closed before long if this keeps up, just as other sites that were much more popular in the past. (Shooters.com) There's too many people griping about it to the parent co./publisher.

-7-

hogdogs · July 21, 2009, 11:01 AM

Since you posted in the hunt section I guess you are referring to the deer bait thread?
If so go read the last several posts. one is mine

You will note the discussion quickly took a death veer from baiting to various hunting methods that are more real than modern technique and gear.
BTW IMHO IBTL YMMV FWIW IIRC!!!
Brent

davlandrum · July 21, 2009, 11:33 AM

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This is one of the most over-moderated sites on the whole 'net!

I have not seen one locked thread that I thought should have remained open. If you can point me to a locked thread that 1) stayed somewhat on topic, and was 2) civil debate, I will re-evaluate my opinion.

At times, I wish it had a pre-emptive thread lock - so that someone starting another "is the XXX enough to hunt YYY", "AR vs AK", or "XXX for bear defense" thread would get a mild shock through their keyboard.... Now that would be technology!

stargazer65 · July 21, 2009, 11:37 AM

IBTL

Recommend you try to:

Police your own threads, keep them on track and they won't lock unless you break a rule.

Buzzcook · July 21, 2009, 11:49 AM

As of now there are two locked threads on the hunting forum. Which one was it that put a kink in your day?

Capt. Charlie · July 21, 2009, 11:51 AM

There are plenty of sites on the Web that allow profanity, insults, sheer irresponsibility, and chaos in general.

This isn't one of them.

Don't like it? Feel absolutely free to leave, but don't let the virtual door hit you on the backside on the way out.

TFL has been around for over 10 years and now has over 76,000 members. The only way it "will be closed before long if this keeps up", will be if the owner of TFL, Rich Lucibella, decides to close it, and that isn't likely as long as we still have mature and civil members that post with the intent to promote responsible firearms ownership.

And speaking of closed threads....

July 21, 2009, 07:01 AM	#1
700REM Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Location: Tx Posts: 32	Whats the point Whats the point of having a forum if someone is going to lock every thread they dont agree on.Not everyone is going to agree on everything,thats called a debate.Theres no communication if one side just locks down a thread for no reason other than he/she dont like how a thread is going.If you dont agree with something on a thread,MOVE ON and dont comment on the thread. __________________ Nothin ****' me off worse than a High Fence ! Shooting captured animals - is NOT hunting !

July 21, 2009, 07:33 AM	#2
ZeSpectre Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Shenandoah Valley Posts: 3,276	What's the point in posting an off topic rant that you know will get closed? __________________ "The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on"

July 21, 2009, 07:48 AM	#3
lockedcj7 Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2007 Posts: 1,215	Before the mods close this thread, I'll get my comments in. There are lots of threads where people disagree and a healthy debate evolves over the course of the thread. Lots of people are looking for advice, experiences or opinions and they get what they came for. The problem is that some people state facts that are just plain wrong, give advice that is dangerous or advocate breaking laws. When that happens, others of us feel compelled to correct the misinformation before a neophyte takes the advice and gets hurt... or worse. Sometimes these threads take a turn toward name-calling and character assassination and the mods step in before it turns into an all-out flame war. Sometimes the threads are specifically intended to start a flame war and the mods step in quickly. Sometimes the threads are purely political and have nothing to do with guns or gun ownership. There are other forums for that. Closed. Sometimes the question has been asked and answered. The thread has gotten hijacked or has strayed far off the OP's point. Closed. I think the mods here are aggressive but not heavy-handed. I've been on other forums that are much more loosely moderated and it ends up being a profanity-filled slug-fest. I'd much rather have a civilized discussion than a bar brawl. That's why I'm here. __________________ To a much greater extent than most mechanical devices, firearms are terribly unforgiving of any overconfidence, complacency or negligence.

July 21, 2009, 11:37 AM	#8
stargazer65 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 761	IBTL Recommend you try to: Police your own threads, keep them on track and they won't lock unless you break a rule. __________________ "I assert that nothing ever comes to pass without a cause." Jonathan Edwards

July 21, 2009, 11:51 AM	#10
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	There are plenty of sites on the Web that allow profanity, insults, sheer irresponsibility, and chaos in general. This isn't one of them. Don't like it? Feel absolutely free to leave, but don't let the virtual door hit you on the backside on the way out. TFL has been around for over 10 years and now has over 76,000 members. The only way it "will be closed before long if this keeps up", will be if the owner of TFL, Rich Lucibella, decides to close it, and that isn't likely as long as we still have mature and civil members that post with the intent to promote responsible firearms ownership. And speaking of closed threads.... __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

July 21, 2009, 08:41 AM	#4
ZeroJunk Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Location: Browns Summit NC Posts: 2,589	The mods are concerned about the perceived civility, character, etc. of the hunting, gun owning community by others who might view these forums. Most have been doing it a long time and know when they want to keep something from getting beaten to death, again.

July 21, 2009, 10:10 AM	#5
a7mmnut Junior member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Location: NC Foothills Posts: 1,150	This is one of the most over-moderated sites on the whole 'net! Most of us are using other, more tolerant sites for continuing sagas. Shop around, most of the names will appear to be familiar to you. This site will be closed before long if this keeps up, just as other sites that were much more popular in the past. (Shooters.com) There's too many people griping about it to the parent co./publisher. -7-

July 21, 2009, 11:01 AM	#6
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Since you posted in the hunt section I guess you are referring to the deer bait thread? If so go read the last several posts. one is mine You will note the discussion quickly took a death veer from baiting to various hunting methods that are more real than modern technique and gear. BTW IMHO IBTL YMMV FWIW IIRC!!! Brent

July 21, 2009, 11:49 AM	#9
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	As of now there are two locked threads on the hunting forum. Which one was it that put a kink in your day?