Small bore Remingtons

BarkSlayer · August 28, 2009, 03:55 PM

I have a very nice 12 gauge Model 870 Wingmaster and am looking to pick up a small bore Rem for trap and skeet. Can anyone comment on the pros and cons of the 28 gauge vs. the .410? The Wingmaster comes in both sizes, but for trap and skeet, I've already had one recommendation for a 20 ga over the smaller bores. Am I going too small here?

Any help would be appreciated.

oneounceload · August 28, 2009, 04:12 PM

I have the semi 28 1100 - I use it for 5-stand and sporting. I found it to be light up front and I was whipping it around until I added an 8oz mag cap weight. Now it is just a great fun gun to shoot. Can't go wrong with a 28 (unless you don't reload)

BarkSlayer · August 28, 2009, 04:17 PM

Probably should have mentioned - I don't reload (at his point anyway). Shells for the .410 ought to be a lot more readily available than 28 gauge. Of course, never having owned either one, I never paid much attention to the availability of one over the other.

perazzimx14 · August 28, 2009, 04:17 PM

For trap you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. 99.9% of trapshooters use a 12 gauge. In trapshooting you don't get any kudos for shooting a subgauge you get them for shooting 100 straights.

BigJimP · August 28, 2009, 04:23 PM

I shoot a 28ga and a .410 quite a bit / although I shoot Browning O/U's in those gagues ... there isn't anything wrong with the 870 pumps, Browning pumps, etc in those gagues ....if that's the gun you want.

I think the 28ga is a perfect gun - for quail, Skeet, etc .......but unless you reload, and shoot it a lot, the shells will get expensive ( but that's just an excuse to buy a loader too ..).

I will tell you that of all my shotguns / I probably shoot the 20ga the least - I shoot a fair amount of 12ga and 28ga probably 70% of the time / maybe 20% of the time the .410 / and the remaining 10% of the time the 20ga..
( no particular reason why / I have 4 identical guns in 12, 20, 28 and .410 ...) its just kind of what seems to happen..

oneounceload · August 28, 2009, 09:23 PM

Right now, 28 gauge target loads run about 10-11 per box - about twice what cheap promo 12 and 20's run from wally world, so reloading is really where it's at, (unless you have more money to burn than most). Same for 410. Both are easily available at wally world and others, since most folks who shoot these reload to save some money

BigJimP · August 29, 2009, 03:27 PM

Of course some of us reload because we like it / and make it part of our shooting hobby. I reload 12, 20, 28ga and .410 / and all my metallic for handguns 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 acp, .38 spl, .357 mag and .44 mag - and I'd reload all of it -even if there wasn't a savings / I just like shooting my own customized loads.

hogdogs · August 29, 2009, 04:05 PM

The .410 is both expensive and a tuff bugger to get used to as it has such a small shot payload. I rarely see the variety ya'll dirt dove shooters use. My walmart stocks mainly #4 or 6 as that is the coon thru squirrel preference. In florida you can only use a gun at night with light for dropping a treed coon and the gun must be either rimfire or .410 so it sees a few sales.
Brent

.300 Weatherby Mag · August 29, 2009, 04:36 PM

I like both the 28 gauge and the .410 as well.. The .410 has far more options when it comes to factory loads.. The 28 honestly works far better than it's size would lead you to believe... Both work well on doves... If conditions allow I might just use a 28 or 410 for the dove opener... As to which one is better for skeet and trap.. My dad likes them both and has shot straights with both gauges in competition... It depends on the shooter and personal preference.. My dad can beat me at the skeet range with a .410 while I'm using a 12 gauge

.... He shoots a 23 or 24 with a .410 and he's mad....

oneounceload · August 29, 2009, 07:16 PM

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The .410 has far more options when it comes to factory loads..

I don't know about that - I have seen Fiocchi Golden Pheasant loads in #5 and #6 for the 28.....a very nice load.....not to mention the Win AA sporting clay loads in 8 and 7-1/2 running about 1300 fps.....

August 28, 2009, 03:55 PM	#1
BarkSlayer Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 265	Small bore Remingtons I have a very nice 12 gauge Model 870 Wingmaster and am looking to pick up a small bore Rem for trap and skeet. Can anyone comment on the pros and cons of the 28 gauge vs. the .410? The Wingmaster comes in both sizes, but for trap and skeet, I've already had one recommendation for a 20 ga over the smaller bores. Am I going too small here? Any help would be appreciated. __________________ Northwest Ohio USA

August 28, 2009, 04:17 PM	#3
BarkSlayer Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 265	Probably should have mentioned - I don't reload (at his point anyway). Shells for the .410 ought to be a lot more readily available than 28 gauge. Of course, never having owned either one, I never paid much attention to the availability of one over the other. __________________ Northwest Ohio USA

August 29, 2009, 04:36 PM	#9
.300 Weatherby Mag Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2008 Posts: 1,777	I like both the 28 gauge and the .410 as well.. The .410 has far more options when it comes to factory loads.. The 28 honestly works far better than it's size would lead you to believe... Both work well on doves... If conditions allow I might just use a 28 or 410 for the dove opener... As to which one is better for skeet and trap.. My dad likes them both and has shot straights with both gauges in competition... It depends on the shooter and personal preference.. My dad can beat me at the skeet range with a .410 while I'm using a 12 gauge.... He shoots a 23 or 24 with a .410 and he's mad....

August 28, 2009, 04:12 PM	#2
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	I have the semi 28 1100 - I use it for 5-stand and sporting. I found it to be light up front and I was whipping it around until I added an 8oz mag cap weight. Now it is just a great fun gun to shoot. Can't go wrong with a 28 (unless you don't reload)

August 28, 2009, 04:17 PM	#4
perazzimx14 Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2007 Posts: 130	For trap you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. 99.9% of trapshooters use a 12 gauge. In trapshooting you don't get any kudos for shooting a subgauge you get them for shooting 100 straights.

August 28, 2009, 04:23 PM	#5
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	I shoot a 28ga and a .410 quite a bit / although I shoot Browning O/U's in those gagues ... there isn't anything wrong with the 870 pumps, Browning pumps, etc in those gagues ....if that's the gun you want. I think the 28ga is a perfect gun - for quail, Skeet, etc .......but unless you reload, and shoot it a lot, the shells will get expensive ( but that's just an excuse to buy a loader too ..). I will tell you that of all my shotguns / I probably shoot the 20ga the least - I shoot a fair amount of 12ga and 28ga probably 70% of the time / maybe 20% of the time the .410 / and the remaining 10% of the time the 20ga.. ( no particular reason why / I have 4 identical guns in 12, 20, 28 and .410 ...) its just kind of what seems to happen..

August 28, 2009, 09:23 PM	#6
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Right now, 28 gauge target loads run about 10-11 per box - about twice what cheap promo 12 and 20's run from wally world, so reloading is really where it's at, (unless you have more money to burn than most). Same for 410. Both are easily available at wally world and others, since most folks who shoot these reload to save some money Last edited by oneounceload; August 29, 2009 at 07:14 PM. Reason: clarifying my ten thumbs missteps

August 29, 2009, 03:27 PM	#7
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Of course some of us reload because we like it / and make it part of our shooting hobby. I reload 12, 20, 28ga and .410 / and all my metallic for handguns 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 acp, .38 spl, .357 mag and .44 mag - and I'd reload all of it -even if there wasn't a savings / I just like shooting my own customized loads.

August 29, 2009, 04:05 PM	#8
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	The .410 is both expensive and a tuff bugger to get used to as it has such a small shot payload. I rarely see the variety ya'll dirt dove shooters use. My walmart stocks mainly #4 or 6 as that is the coon thru squirrel preference. In florida you can only use a gun at night with light for dropping a treed coon and the gun must be either rimfire or .410 so it sees a few sales. Brent