Plated and jacketed pistol bullets??

HAMMER1DOWN · February 11, 2014, 01:15 AM

I just bought quit a few Berry's Bullets for my 45, they are 185 grain hollow base bullets. Can I load them with the same data in my sierra manual for the jacketed bullets or do I need to find load data for the plated bullets? The pistol is a Kimber 1911 full size.

Jim243 · February 11, 2014, 02:36 AM

Nice gun, I would start out at mid range between min & max load for the jacketed bullets and work your way up from there.

Jim

Hammerhead · February 11, 2014, 04:36 AM

I use Hodgdon jacketed data for plated bullets in .45 auto. The chrono usually agrees with the jacketed data.

j357 · February 11, 2014, 05:20 AM

The Berry's website has a recommendation for low to mid jacketed loads in the FAQ section.

Interesting bullet design you have there, in that it is 185g but has the apparent shape/profile of a 230g RN with a large hollow base. Of course that means the COL for typical 185g bullets wont be correct. That presents and interesting question as to whether there might be issues with blowing the bullet apart, doubtful at .45 pressures, but something to watch for if you work up to reach out for max loads.

Any chance you can check and report the length and diameter of these as well (I would be interested in knowing if they are .451 or .452).

buck460XVR · February 11, 2014, 08:44 AM

According to the link on Berry's website, their 185gr HBRN uses a OAL similar to a standard 230gr RN. The recipe given in the link uses a OAL of 1.250”.

They also show the DIA. as .452''.

mmb713 · February 11, 2014, 09:46 PM

Xtreme recommended to me to use Speer's jacketed data. Any published jacketed data will be fine as Speer usually has the hottest data. Most of the makers of plated bullets also recommend holding velocities below a certain level, usually around 1100fps - 1200fps. You won't exceed that with any published data in 45 Auto.

February 11, 2014, 01:15 AM	#1
HAMMER1DOWN Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Location: Close Enough to Canada to say "EH!!"... MT Posts: 418	Plated and jacketed pistol bullets?? I just bought quit a few Berry's Bullets for my 45, they are 185 grain hollow base bullets. Can I load them with the same data in my sierra manual for the jacketed bullets or do I need to find load data for the plated bullets? The pistol is a Kimber 1911 full size. __________________ "Worthy is Freedom to only those who are prepared to stand behind their rifles and fight for their rights" -Robert W. Hambley....A.K.A. Myself-

February 11, 2014, 02:36 AM	#2
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	Nice gun, I would start out at mid range between min & max load for the jacketed bullets and work your way up from there. Jim __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum

February 11, 2014, 04:36 AM	#3
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	I use Hodgdon jacketed data for plated bullets in .45 auto. The chrono usually agrees with the jacketed data.

February 11, 2014, 05:20 AM	#4
j357 Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2009 Location: Liberty Twp, OH Posts: 283	The Berry's website has a recommendation for low to mid jacketed loads in the FAQ section. Interesting bullet design you have there, in that it is 185g but has the apparent shape/profile of a 230g RN with a large hollow base. Of course that means the COL for typical 185g bullets wont be correct. That presents and interesting question as to whether there might be issues with blowing the bullet apart, doubtful at .45 pressures, but something to watch for if you work up to reach out for max loads. Any chance you can check and report the length and diameter of these as well (I would be interested in knowing if they are .451 or .452).

February 11, 2014, 08:44 AM	#5
buck460XVR Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2006 Posts: 4,342	According to the link on Berry's website, their 185gr HBRN uses a OAL similar to a standard 230gr RN. The recipe given in the link uses a OAL of 1.250”. They also show the DIA. as .452''.

February 11, 2014, 09:46 PM	#6
mmb713 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2011 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 421	Xtreme recommended to me to use Speer's jacketed data. Any published jacketed data will be fine as Speer usually has the hottest data. Most of the makers of plated bullets also recommend holding velocities below a certain level, usually around 1100fps - 1200fps. You won't exceed that with any published data in 45 Auto.