this may sound dumb

lunchbox · May 21, 2009, 05:49 PM

I know it is very common place for folks to carry an AR or AK or what have you in their car or truck I did the same thing for years. My situation has since changed I now ride a 1989 ninja 750R and would still like to carry my AK what I am looking for is if someone knows of a rifle bag/ backpack (as i do need to carry other things as well) that doesn't look like I am caring around a rifle or some sort of scabbard that i can mount that is again discrete and can lock in some way

Any ideas

elkman06 · May 21, 2009, 10:31 PM

Maybe you could get someone to fabricate a really cool tricked out massive muffler. elkman06
Seems like it might be a little hard to conceal a Ak on a 750 Ninja...

OttoJara · May 21, 2009, 10:34 PM

If your on a ninja, you should carry numbchucks

05kas05 · May 21, 2009, 11:14 PM

i have heard of some people using one of those soft sided guitar cases that have the backpack style straps.

KChen986 · May 21, 2009, 11:33 PM

Idea: Folding Stock for your AK? It'll fit a discrete backpack easier.

Dallas Jack · May 22, 2009, 04:44 AM

Dump the AK and get a handgun.

Dallas Jack

Dingoboyx · May 22, 2009, 05:35 AM

I immediately thought of a violin case (or guitar case) or even a trombone case.... find a hard (semi-hard) case for a musical instrument or tool such as a theodalite, or a break down fishin' rod case, pool que case or the like Whatever you end up getting, put a sling on it & you should be right

armoredman · May 22, 2009, 06:27 AM

I have seen a folding stock AK placed in a tennis racket bag. Try that if it's legal for you in your location.

Kreyzhorse · May 22, 2009, 06:45 AM

I'm going to guess that it would just be easier to conceal and carry a handgun. I can't imagine any way to really "secure" a rifle on a motorcycle.

Ian0351 · May 22, 2009, 06:50 AM

For concealment you could use a golf bag... but seeing a guy on a crotchrocket with a golf bag strapped to it (or guitar/violin case) would certainly pique the interest of at least observant people. Also you'd have to deal with 'grass ninja' slurs.

lunchbox · May 22, 2009, 01:23 PM

I have handguns that is not the issue

I carry them as well I want to have a backup plan

lunchbox · May 22, 2009, 01:25 PM

I defiantly plan to get a folding stock

1goodshot · May 22, 2009, 03:21 PM

Look at sneaky bags they may have something.

http://www.sneakybags.com/

lunchbox · May 22, 2009, 07:32 PM

that bag may just work

lunchbox · May 26, 2009, 12:55 PM

dont die thread dont die

TEDDY · May 27, 2009, 03:20 PM

If you stay out of bad places you wont need primary let alone a back up.I am 85 and never been robbed,and I lived in Roxbury Mass for 10 yrs.if you dont look like a victim you wont be.having known some bad boys,they look for easy scores.course now the old timers are gone and the new crop are scum bags.you have time for one shot,and that AK will get you killed trying to get it out.I carry a tokorve inside belt and a hi power in back leave the shirt out.it covers both.

lunchbox · May 27, 2009, 09:50 PM

I carry an XDsc with 3 extra 12 round mags filled with cor-bon DPX and an XDm with 4 extra mags filled with Winchester ranger everyone keeps saying get a handgun I have that covered that is not the issue at hand

(BH) · May 28, 2009, 09:16 AM

lunchbox,

forgive me if i sound rude but this sparks my interest. doesnt that just seem like a massive inconvenience for something you will almost certainly never need.

i mean, its gonna be really hard to secure this thing to your bike. not to mention it seems like it could end up being a safety hazard due to its size. and in the event that you need it, how are you going to equip yourself with it while ridin a motorcycle? i think the idea of carrying a rifle in in your vehicle went out with the truck.

why not just get a large bore pistol of some sort?

FF/EMT · May 28, 2009, 10:06 AM

Ya man I have to say, I would go for a sidearm and maybe some spare mags? As a firefighter, if you wrecked and I was walking up and saw that weapon, legally I would not be able to help you. I would have to turn right around and walk away because the "scene is not safe". So for your own sake I would just carry a sidearm. And I don't think there will come a time when you will need an AK-47 in public. I think a sidearm would be enough to get you out of harms way and to open the door for the PD to do their job.

lunchbox · May 28, 2009, 11:19 AM

thank you for your opinion but i care not

what kind of BS is that you cant help a dying man because he has a gun

the old saying rings true i would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it you can never know what will happen on any given day i plan to be prepared at all times

Ian0351 · May 28, 2009, 12:53 PM

For the OP:
Exactly why do you think you need a subcompact, a full-size duty pistol and and AK on your motorcycle? Do you live in Peshawar? Is it even legal to travel with a loaded rifle where you live?
Quite frankly this topic, and your response to FF/EMT's well-intentioned response, seems rather juvenile. Have you ever seen an AK with a runaway trigger? Are you really that surprised that a professional lifesaver would have compunctions about traveling into an accident scene with the possibility of that occurring? If it's that important to you to carry an assault rifle on your motorcycle, go ahead; just don't berate the people you came to for advice for offering their professional opinions just because it's not what you want to hear.

P.S.- It's spelled dying... and this forum has a spell-checker built into the editor, that's what the red underlining means.

lunchbox · May 28, 2009, 01:57 PM

I'm not trying to berate anyone.

I don't understand why nobody seems to think that an EMT not helping someone due to the fact a gun is present Is BS so if a cop gets shot he has a gun are you going to let him lay there and die come on.

and the opinions given are not about the question I asked.

Also I live in Texas and yes it is legal to carry in this state. (the BATFE has no soul off topic)

Again its OK for people to do so in their cars and trucks but not for me and my bike. I don't have a car I ride everywhere I go

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For the OP:
Exactly why do you think you need a subcompact, a full-size duty pistol and and AK on your motorcycle? Do you live in Peshawar? Is it even legal to travel with a loaded rifle where you live?
Quite frankly this topic, and your response to FF/EMT's well-intentioned response, seems rather juvenile. Have you ever seen an AK with a runaway trigger? Are you really that surprised that a professional lifesaver would have compunctions about traveling into an accident scene with the possibility of that occurring? If it's that important to you to carry an assault rifle on your motorcycle, go ahead; just don't berate the people you came to for advice for offering their professional opinions just because it's not what you want to hear.

P.S.- It's spelled dying... and this forum has a spell-checker built into the editor, that's what the red underlining means.
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Hamcheese · May 28, 2009, 02:03 PM

HAHA...Stick!

Dustin0 · May 28, 2009, 02:04 PM

Mall Ninja ?

I see this one going to the mall ninja thread later tonight.

Ian0351 · May 28, 2009, 02:09 PM

He didn't say he wouldn't render assistance to someone with a gun, in fact he encouraged you to carry a gun that is meant for carrying. What was said was that a unsecured AK in an accident scene would make rendering immediate assistance unsafe. In cases such as this first responders have a duty first and foremost to preserve public safety; so you may have to wait for someone trained to deal with a potentially unsafe weapon to arrive and deal with your rifle while you're bleeding out from your crotchrocket crash.
I repeat, have you ever seen a runaway trigger? It is excessively dangerous and very common in AK-47 rifles which have been exposed to heat or impact, even those which have been converted to semi-auto only. If you have a MAK-90 or something you should be OK, but your average EMT probably does not know the difference between a converted select-fire and an import legal post ban AK. Also, how bad does it look to police when someone crashes at high speed and an AK spills out onto the road? Regardless of the laws where you live you have a duty to safely and securely transport any and all firearms, this is also usually written into the state laws regarding guns and vehicles.

May 21, 2009, 05:49 PM	#1
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	this may sound dumb I know it is very common place for folks to carry an AR or AK or what have you in their car or truck I did the same thing for years. My situation has since changed I now ride a 1989 ninja 750R and would still like to carry my AK what I am looking for is if someone knows of a rifle bag/ backpack (as i do need to carry other things as well) that doesn't look like I am caring around a rifle or some sort of scabbard that i can mount that is again discrete and can lock in some way Any ideas

May 21, 2009, 10:31 PM	#2
elkman06 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Location: Wyoming Posts: 885	Maybe you could get someone to fabricate a really cool tricked out massive muffler. elkman06 Seems like it might be a little hard to conceal a Ak on a 750 Ninja... __________________ "The right of the citizens to bear arms in the defense of themselves and of the state shall not be denied." Wyoming Constitution Article 1, Sec24 "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6"

May 21, 2009, 10:34 PM	#3
OttoJara Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2008 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 459	If your on a ninja, you should carry numbchucks __________________ The early bird may get the worm, but, the second rat, gets the cheese. "A fear of weapons, is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

May 21, 2009, 11:33 PM	#5
KChen986 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Location: Ninja Mall Posts: 818	Idea: Folding Stock for your AK? It'll fit a discrete backpack easier. __________________ E Pluribus Unum

May 22, 2009, 05:35 AM	#7
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	I'm with 05kas I immediately thought of a violin case (or guitar case) or even a trombone case.... find a hard (semi-hard) case for a musical instrument or tool such as a theodalite, or a break down fishin' rod case, pool que case or the like Whatever you end up getting, put a sling on it & you should be right __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

May 21, 2009, 11:14 PM	#4
05kas05 Member Join Date: January 3, 2009 Location: texas Posts: 52	i have heard of some people using one of those soft sided guitar cases that have the backpack style straps.

May 22, 2009, 04:44 AM	#6
Dallas Jack Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 386	Dump the AK and get a handgun. Dallas Jack

May 22, 2009, 06:27 AM	#8
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	I have seen a folding stock AK placed in a tennis racket bag. Try that if it's legal for you in your location.

May 22, 2009, 06:45 AM	#9
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	I'm going to guess that it would just be easier to conceal and carry a handgun. I can't imagine any way to really "secure" a rifle on a motorcycle. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

May 22, 2009, 06:50 AM	#10
Ian0351 Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 414	For concealment you could use a golf bag... but seeing a guy on a crotchrocket with a golf bag strapped to it (or guitar/violin case) would certainly pique the interest of at least observant people. Also you'd have to deal with 'grass ninja' slurs. __________________ You can have your churches, I'll keep my guns. Just keep your hands off my paycheck and your eyes out of my backyard. Join the Libertarian Party! http://www.lp.org Semper Fidelis

May 22, 2009, 01:23 PM	#11
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	I have handguns that is not the issue I carry them as well I want to have a backup plan

May 22, 2009, 01:25 PM	#12
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	I defiantly plan to get a folding stock

May 22, 2009, 03:21 PM	#13
1goodshot Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: chandler,az Posts: 929	Look at sneaky bags they may have something. http://www.sneakybags.com/

May 22, 2009, 07:32 PM	#14
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	that bag may just work

May 26, 2009, 12:55 PM	#15
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	dont die thread dont die

May 27, 2009, 03:20 PM	#16
TEDDY Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 837	carry If you stay out of bad places you wont need primary let alone a back up.I am 85 and never been robbed,and I lived in Roxbury Mass for 10 yrs.if you dont look like a victim you wont be.having known some bad boys,they look for easy scores.course now the old timers are gone and the new crop are scum bags.you have time for one shot,and that AK will get you killed trying to get it out.I carry a tokorve inside belt and a hi power in back leave the shirt out.it covers both.

May 27, 2009, 09:50 PM	#17
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	I carry an XDsc with 3 extra 12 round mags filled with cor-bon DPX and an XDm with 4 extra mags filled with Winchester ranger everyone keeps saying get a handgun I have that covered that is not the issue at hand

May 28, 2009, 09:16 AM	#18
(BH) Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2009 Location: East TN Posts: 638	lunchbox, forgive me if i sound rude but this sparks my interest. doesnt that just seem like a massive inconvenience for something you will almost certainly never need. i mean, its gonna be really hard to secure this thing to your bike. not to mention it seems like it could end up being a safety hazard due to its size. and in the event that you need it, how are you going to equip yourself with it while ridin a motorcycle? i think the idea of carrying a rifle in in your vehicle went out with the truck. why not just get a large bore pistol of some sort?

May 28, 2009, 10:06 AM	#19
FF/EMT Member Join Date: May 24, 2009 Location: Astatula, FL Posts: 52	No disrespect but.... Ya man I have to say, I would go for a sidearm and maybe some spare mags? As a firefighter, if you wrecked and I was walking up and saw that weapon, legally I would not be able to help you. I would have to turn right around and walk away because the "scene is not safe". So for your own sake I would just carry a sidearm. And I don't think there will come a time when you will need an AK-47 in public. I think a sidearm would be enough to get you out of harms way and to open the door for the PD to do their job. __________________ ‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.’’ - Jefferson

May 28, 2009, 11:19 AM	#20
lunchbox Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Posts: 62	thank you for your opinion but i care not what kind of BS is that you cant help a dying man because he has a gun the old saying rings true i would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it you can never know what will happen on any given day i plan to be prepared at all times Last edited by lunchbox; May 28, 2009 at 01:50 PM.

May 28, 2009, 12:53 PM	#21
Ian0351 Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 414	For the OP: Exactly why do you think you need a subcompact, a full-size duty pistol and and AK on your motorcycle? Do you live in Peshawar? Is it even legal to travel with a loaded rifle where you live? Quite frankly this topic, and your response to FF/EMT's well-intentioned response, seems rather juvenile. Have you ever seen an AK with a runaway trigger? Are you really that surprised that a professional lifesaver would have compunctions about traveling into an accident scene with the possibility of that occurring? If it's that important to you to carry an assault rifle on your motorcycle, go ahead; just don't berate the people you came to for advice for offering their professional opinions just because it's not what you want to hear. P.S.- It's spelled dying... and this forum has a spell-checker built into the editor, that's what the red underlining means. __________________ You can have your churches, I'll keep my guns. Just keep your hands off my paycheck and your eyes out of my backyard. Join the Libertarian Party! http://www.lp.org Semper Fidelis

May 28, 2009, 02:03 PM	#23
Hamcheese Junior Member Join Date: May 28, 2009 Posts: 3	HAHA...Stick!

May 28, 2009, 02:04 PM	#24
Dustin0 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 701	Mall Ninja ? I see this one going to the mall ninja thread later tonight. Last edited by Dustin0; May 28, 2009 at 02:20 PM.

May 28, 2009, 02:09 PM	#25
Ian0351 Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 414	He didn't say he wouldn't render assistance to someone with a gun, in fact he encouraged you to carry a gun that is meant for carrying. What was said was that a unsecured AK in an accident scene would make rendering immediate assistance unsafe. In cases such as this first responders have a duty first and foremost to preserve public safety; so you may have to wait for someone trained to deal with a potentially unsafe weapon to arrive and deal with your rifle while you're bleeding out from your crotchrocket crash. I repeat, have you ever seen a runaway trigger? It is excessively dangerous and very common in AK-47 rifles which have been exposed to heat or impact, even those which have been converted to semi-auto only. If you have a MAK-90 or something you should be OK, but your average EMT probably does not know the difference between a converted select-fire and an import legal post ban AK. Also, how bad does it look to police when someone crashes at high speed and an AK spills out onto the road? Regardless of the laws where you live you have a duty to safely and securely transport any and all firearms, this is also usually written into the state laws regarding guns and vehicles. __________________ You can have your churches, I'll keep my guns. Just keep your hands off my paycheck and your eyes out of my backyard. Join the Libertarian Party! http://www.lp.org Semper Fidelis