Chiappa M9 clone

Dangerwing · January 31, 2013, 01:20 AM

Chiappa's website says they make a 9mm clone of the Beretta M9. I can find a lot of info about the .22 M9 clone, but nothing on the 9mm version. Anyone know anything about this? Specifically, will my stock pile of 92fs mags work in the Chiappa version?

Thanks

PS: Here is the link to the Chiappa webpage regarding the 9mm version

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2625

qwiksdraw · January 31, 2013, 07:52 AM

Chiappa doesn't make a 9MM clone of the Barretta M9, just the 22 version (like they also do in the 1911 22LR pistols):

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/126

Beacuse of that, I am sure the mags are not interchangeable between the guns.

If your question is about Barretta's guns, here is their full size line up:

http://www.berettausa.com/shop-by-de...uns/full-size/

This may help you some:
http://youtu.be/YREreLOlrg4

Dangerwing · January 31, 2013, 10:36 AM

Qwiksdraw that's what I thought too, but how do you explain the link I posted above? It clearly says 9mm in almost half a dozen spots. And the model is labeled "m9" not "m9 22" like the 22 cal versions

TheNocturnus · January 31, 2013, 12:08 PM

Wow, it does look like an exact copy. I'd like to get my hands on it to see how it feels and compares to a real M9.

I had one of their 1911-22's and it was fun as heck to shoot.

Fishbed77 · January 31, 2013, 01:23 PM

Is it perhaps one of the Turkish 92 clones with different branding?

Microgunner · January 31, 2013, 01:31 PM

I just checked with our wholesalers and indeed they are listing a Beretta M9 clone in 9mm.
They are listed as a new iten but no one had any in stock.

jon_in_wv · February 1, 2013, 10:00 PM

Yeah its pretty obvious there is indeed a 9mm version. I think someone was a little qwik on the draw to correct you. I would be interested in know if they take the Beretta mags also. The only problem is I carried a Beretta M9 in the Marine Corps. A copy just might not feel right to me.

qwiksdraw · February 2, 2013, 02:04 PM

Yea, it looks like I was incorrect. No intent to mislead.

You should call Chiappa customer service, they can answer you mag question. I have found them very friendly and helpful. You may have to leave a voicemail message, but they will call back.

Anyway, if you find one and buy it then I for one would be interested in a range report!

Dangerwing · February 3, 2013, 03:25 AM

No harm no foul Qwiks. Had I not just seen the 9mm version on the website, I would have said the same thing. Seems recently that everything that has a barrel and goes bang is back ordered or otherwise unavailable, but if I can get my hands on one of these little guys I will be sure to post a range report.

azrednek · April 20, 2014, 09:25 PM

"Is it perhaps one of the Turkish 92 clones with different branding?"

These were previously imported by ATI and sold at a considerably lower price I might add. Online prices to a FFL were apx 300. They are an exact clone with all parts being interchangeable with Italian made Berettas. Can't say as I haven't been able to do a side by side comparison but presume all parts interchange with USA manufactured as well.

Sources have claimed the Italian Berettas were assembled in Italy with Turkish made parts. A dispute ending with a bad relationship between Beretta and the Turk manufacture is the reason the Turks have continued to market the M9. Also as some sources have claimed. The Turks had most the tooling and machinery in place.

The exceptions or differences between the Turk and Italian M9's are nearly insignificant. Beretta Italian manufactured M9's were assembled with Turk made parts, specifically frames, slides and most if not all all internal parts except barrels and springs. Beretta felt the Turk springs were not up to the same quality as Beretta. The same sources claim Italian Beretta was outsourcing spring manufacture but was not sure whom. Beretta manufactured barrels, both USA and Italy are chrome lined, Turk barrels are not.

The other difference actually gives the advantage to the Turks at least in my mind. The recoil spring guide in an Italian (and USA) are now plastic even though they prefer to describe the part as "high grade polymer". The Turks at least while they were imported by ATI were made of metal. The ATI followers are magnetic so obviously are of steel or iron construction.

Not certain for the reason of the end of the relationship between the Turks and ATI. I do know ATI wanted to continue but the rumor mill says the Turks felt ATI did a dismal job marketing it.

January 31, 2013, 01:20 AM	#1
Dangerwing Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 237	Chiappa M9 clone Chiappa's website says they make a 9mm clone of the Beretta M9. I can find a lot of info about the .22 M9 clone, but nothing on the 9mm version. Anyone know anything about this? Specifically, will my stock pile of 92fs mags work in the Chiappa version? Thanks PS: Here is the link to the Chiappa webpage regarding the 9mm version http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2625 __________________ Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be an aisle at Wal-Mart, not a government agency! Only faithful men teach their wives to shoot.

January 31, 2013, 10:36 AM	#3
Dangerwing Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 237	Qwiksdraw that's what I thought too, but how do you explain the link I posted above? It clearly says 9mm in almost half a dozen spots. And the model is labeled "m9" not "m9 22" like the 22 cal versions __________________ Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be an aisle at Wal-Mart, not a government agency! Only faithful men teach their wives to shoot.

January 31, 2013, 12:08 PM	#4
TheNocturnus Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,097	Wow, it does look like an exact copy. I'd like to get my hands on it to see how it feels and compares to a real M9. I had one of their 1911-22's and it was fun as heck to shoot. __________________ My EDC: Gun Wallet Brain (Use this one the most)

January 31, 2013, 01:31 PM	#6
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	I just checked with our wholesalers and indeed they are listing a Beretta M9 clone in 9mm. They are listed as a new iten but no one had any in stock. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

February 1, 2013, 10:00 PM	#7
jon_in_wv Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2004 Posts: 670	Yeah its pretty obvious there is indeed a 9mm version. I think someone was a little qwik on the draw to correct you. I would be interested in know if they take the Beretta mags also. The only problem is I carried a Beretta M9 in the Marine Corps. A copy just might not feel right to me. __________________ Why has INTEGRITY become such a rare commodity?

January 31, 2013, 07:52 AM	#2
qwiksdraw Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2012 Posts: 534	Chiappa doesn't make a 9MM clone of the Barretta M9, just the 22 version (like they also do in the 1911 22LR pistols): http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/126 Beacuse of that, I am sure the mags are not interchangeable between the guns. If your question is about Barretta's guns, here is their full size line up: http://www.berettausa.com/shop-by-de...uns/full-size/ This may help you some: http://youtu.be/YREreLOlrg4

January 31, 2013, 01:23 PM	#5
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Is it perhaps one of the Turkish 92 clones with different branding?

February 2, 2013, 02:04 PM	#8
qwiksdraw Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2012 Posts: 534	Yea, it looks like I was incorrect. No intent to mislead. You should call Chiappa customer service, they can answer you mag question. I have found them very friendly and helpful. You may have to leave a voicemail message, but they will call back. Anyway, if you find one and buy it then I for one would be interested in a range report! Last edited by qwiksdraw; February 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM.

February 3, 2013, 03:25 AM	#9
Dangerwing Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2007 Location: South Dakota Posts: 237	No harm no foul Qwiks. Had I not just seen the 9mm version on the website, I would have said the same thing. Seems recently that everything that has a barrel and goes bang is back ordered or otherwise unavailable, but if I can get my hands on one of these little guys I will be sure to post a range report. __________________ Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be an aisle at Wal-Mart, not a government agency! Only faithful men teach their wives to shoot.

April 20, 2014, 09:25 PM	#10
azrednek Junior Member Join Date: April 20, 2014 Posts: 4	"Is it perhaps one of the Turkish 92 clones with different branding?" These were previously imported by ATI and sold at a considerably lower price I might add. Online prices to a FFL were apx 300. They are an exact clone with all parts being interchangeable with Italian made Berettas. Can't say as I haven't been able to do a side by side comparison but presume all parts interchange with USA manufactured as well. Sources have claimed the Italian Berettas were assembled in Italy with Turkish made parts. A dispute ending with a bad relationship between Beretta and the Turk manufacture is the reason the Turks have continued to market the M9. Also as some sources have claimed. The Turks had most the tooling and machinery in place. The exceptions or differences between the Turk and Italian M9's are nearly insignificant. Beretta Italian manufactured M9's were assembled with Turk made parts, specifically frames, slides and most if not all all internal parts except barrels and springs. Beretta felt the Turk springs were not up to the same quality as Beretta. The same sources claim Italian Beretta was outsourcing spring manufacture but was not sure whom. Beretta manufactured barrels, both USA and Italy are chrome lined, Turk barrels are not. The other difference actually gives the advantage to the Turks at least in my mind. The recoil spring guide in an Italian (and USA) are now plastic even though they prefer to describe the part as "high grade polymer". The Turks at least while they were imported by ATI were made of metal. The ATI followers are magnetic so obviously are of steel or iron construction. Not certain for the reason of the end of the relationship between the Turks and ATI. I do know ATI wanted to continue but the rumor mill says the Turks felt ATI did a dismal job marketing it.

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