AA#7 alternatives?

AndABeer · May 16, 2002, 11:42 PM

Accurate Arms products are becoming increasingly more difficult for me to find. Can anyone recommend a similar performing powder by Hodgdon or Alliant (not Blue Dot) for 10mm?

KP95DAO · May 17, 2002, 09:56 AM

HS-7 should be a good fit. Here is a burn rate chart: http://www.loadyourown.com/burnrate.htm

I think you will find the site has other interesting info.

Shoney · May 17, 2002, 10:12 AM

Have you checked out the IMR powders?

http://www.imrpowder.com/handgun/10mma_index.html

800X is about the closest to AA7 in burn rate, as it is only a tiny bit faster.

Strong points: 800X will give you much higher velocities at lower pressures. Gives excellent accuracy. A little less muzle flip per equal velocity, due to lower pressure.

Only drawbacks I have found are: meters within 0.1 to 0.2 grains plus or minus. Leaves a black pepper residue on everything around the pistol. fairly significant flash on lighter, faster loads.

Best Wishes, Shoney

WESHOOT2 · May 17, 2002, 05:54 PM

If not searching for escape velocity ammo, try Power Pistol.

(Or, Blue Dot.)

Rumor.............Longshot may work. HS6 and 7 will work.

AndABeer · May 17, 2002, 06:17 PM

I think I'm gonna give the Longshot stuff a try. Heard a couple good rumors about it.

Shoney · May 18, 2002, 12:22 AM

AndABeer:

Now your talking. But I thought you wanted AA7 duplication, not max performance

I use Longshot in a 40S&W compact with 180 Gold Dots as my personal defense and accuracy load. It yields 1099fps with less than an inch groups at 25 yards. And thats from a 3.65inch barrel.

But if you want more impressive results in a 10MM, try 1162 FPS with a 200 gr bullet,

VihtaVuori N105

http://www.vihtavuori.fi/vihtavuori/index.html

AndABeer · May 18, 2002, 12:51 AM

as difficult a time as I have finding Accurate Arms stuff, it has been pretty much impossible for me to locate Vihta Vuori products, at one time i wanted to try some of their faster powder for some .45 loads but there was none to be found

Redneck2 · May 19, 2002, 08:53 AM

the 10mm Information Pages????

They give lots of loads by powder manufacturer, velocity, pressure

Chemistry · May 19, 2002, 08:09 PM

If you are looking for something that can bring the velocities, many folks are apparently having good success with Vectan SP2 powder.

The drawback to Vectan powders is that there's not too much data out there, and the company's website is not too good.

May 16, 2002, 11:42 PM	#1
AndABeer Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2000 Location: Lakeland, TN Posts: 1,622	AA#7 alternatives? Accurate Arms products are becoming increasingly more difficult for me to find. Can anyone recommend a similar performing powder by Hodgdon or Alliant (not Blue Dot) for 10mm? __________________ "The key is to not pull the trigger but to squeeze it." Evil Emporer Zurg "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." Unknown

May 17, 2002, 10:12 AM	#3
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	Have you checked out the IMR powders? http://www.imrpowder.com/handgun/10mma_index.html 800X is about the closest to AA7 in burn rate, as it is only a tiny bit faster. Strong points: 800X will give you much higher velocities at lower pressures. Gives excellent accuracy. A little less muzle flip per equal velocity, due to lower pressure. Only drawbacks I have found are: meters within 0.1 to 0.2 grains plus or minus. Leaves a black pepper residue on everything around the pistol. fairly significant flash on lighter, faster loads. Best Wishes, Shoney __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

May 17, 2002, 05:54 PM	#4
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	HIGHLY RECOMMEND If not searching for escape velocity ammo, try Power Pistol. (Or, Blue Dot.) Rumor.............Longshot may work. HS6 and 7 will work. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

May 17, 2002, 06:17 PM	#5
AndABeer Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2000 Location: Lakeland, TN Posts: 1,622	I think I'm gonna give the Longshot stuff a try. Heard a couple good rumors about it. __________________ "The key is to not pull the trigger but to squeeze it." Evil Emporer Zurg "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." Unknown

May 18, 2002, 12:22 AM	#6
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	AndABeer: Now your talking. But I thought you wanted AA7 duplication, not max performance I use Longshot in a 40S&W compact with 180 Gold Dots as my personal defense and accuracy load. It yields 1099fps with less than an inch groups at 25 yards. And thats from a 3.65inch barrel. But if you want more impressive results in a 10MM, try 1162 FPS with a 200 gr bullet, VihtaVuori N105 http://www.vihtavuori.fi/vihtavuori/index.html __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111 Last edited by Shoney; May 18, 2002 at 01:28 AM.

May 17, 2002, 09:56 AM	#2
KP95DAO Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2000 Posts: 699	HS-7 should be a good fit. Here is a burn rate chart: http://www.loadyourown.com/burnrate.htm I think you will find the site has other interesting info.

May 18, 2002, 12:51 AM	#7
AndABeer Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2000 Location: Lakeland, TN Posts: 1,622	as difficult a time as I have finding Accurate Arms stuff, it has been pretty much impossible for me to locate Vihta Vuori products, at one time i wanted to try some of their faster powder for some .45 loads but there was none to be found __________________ "The key is to not pull the trigger but to squeeze it." Evil Emporer Zurg "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." Unknown

May 19, 2002, 08:53 AM	#8
Redneck2 Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2000 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 519	Have you tried... the 10mm Information Pages???? They give lots of loads by powder manufacturer, velocity, pressure

May 19, 2002, 08:09 PM	#9
Chemistry Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2001 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 158	If you are looking for something that can bring the velocities, many folks are apparently having good success with Vectan SP2 powder. The drawback to Vectan powders is that there's not too much data out there, and the company's website is not too good.