Keith bullets in the Rossi 92

rabbit hunter · February 24, 2013, 11:01 AM

I have three Rossi 92s, 357, 44, & 45 Colt. None will feed loads with a Keith type SWC. Can the Rossi be modified in some way to reliably feed this popular bullet style? TIA.

PetahW · February 24, 2013, 11:29 AM

IF it can be done, Nate "Kiowa" Jones ( www.stevesgunz.com ) would know, since he's the premier Model 92 gunsmith in the US.

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m&p45acp10+1 · February 24, 2013, 04:18 PM

You might try trimming a few cases shorter. This tends to help the longer bullet profiles feed in lever action rifles. The guy at the range that actualy shoots 170 grain Kieth style bullets loads them in a .38 Spcl case. They are also too long to chamber in a .38 Spcl gun. They drop in my .357 Mag and stick out of the cylinder of my .38 spcl.

Pathfinder45 · February 27, 2013, 11:57 PM

....are for revolvers. My Marlin 45 feeds Keiths alright but there is a much better bullet for the job. Use a RNFP bullet. The 45 caliber Lee 255 grain RNFP has a very large meplat and works perfectly well in both revolver and rifle. Of course, you have to cast them yourself; but they're worth it.

QuarterHorse · February 28, 2013, 12:18 AM

Thoughts on 250gr rnfp SNS bullets in .452? It's all I could find and that's what's going in my New Vaquero and Rossi 92 when it arrives.

Pathfinder45 · February 28, 2013, 12:43 AM

I'm not sure what you mean. SNS? Could you elaborate? Are you wanting a load recommendation?

QuarterHorse · February 28, 2013, 08:26 AM

S n S cast bullets, just curious of people using them? There is limited info when I searched on this site about em. Just wondering if you had experience

mehavey · February 28, 2013, 09:00 AM

Keith bullets function w/o any problem in my `92 (Chiappa) 357. But.... they will only do that in 38 Special case-lengths.

Load that 38 to whatever PLUS-P+ velocities the bullet material (the limiting factor) will stand and don't worry about it.

QuarterHorse · February 28, 2013, 09:35 AM

Mistake - edit

OD#3 · March 5, 2013, 08:05 PM

I shot nothing but Keith bullets in my Rossi 92 in .45 Colt. I handloaded for it, and the loading recipes I used specified crimping over the front driving band. It always fed them without a hitch. I never tried crimping them in the crimping groove; perhaps that's your problem.

rabbit hunter · March 11, 2013, 10:45 PM

Well, my R92 in 45 Colt now is feeding the Keith type bullets (crimped in the crimping groove) w/o problem. Funny thing about that carbine; before ever firing a shot, I dry fired it a couple times and the trigger broke ii two at the pivot pin. Five weeks later, back from Rossi, it functions ok. I'm still reduced to shooting 38 special in the 357 mag, and 44 special in the 44 mag, both with the Keith bullets. I guess I can live with that!

rabbit hunter · March 11, 2013, 10:49 PM

Oh, yeah, I forgot to say that I have ordered some RNFP bullets to try in place of the Keith type. Will let you know how they work. Seems to be a delay in delivery due to demand. Wonder what DHS has to do with that?

twobit · March 12, 2013, 08:36 AM

I shoot RNFP lead 250 grain in my revolver and my 92 Rossi 45 colt. Feeds fine in the rifle. I buy them from Crown Bullet out of Florida in 500 or 1000 count boxes.

Cheap 870 · March 12, 2013, 11:18 AM

I have an old model Rossi carbine in 45colt & it's never had a problem chambering anything.
The only complaints I have is the sights, I wish they had buckhorn's & with full power loads it kicks like 2 mules.

TheBear · March 13, 2013, 01:45 PM

Try using .38spec cases with your .357mag. works for me.

jbondor · March 13, 2013, 06:05 PM

I have had no problems loading 158 gr lead SWC of Keith design in either .357 or .38 special brass in my Rossie model 92. I seat the bullets in the lube groove for .38 cases to nearly duplicate the length of the .357 cartridge.

February 24, 2013, 11:01 AM	#1
rabbit hunter Member Join Date: April 7, 2011 Location: Near Las Vegas Posts: 30	Keith bullets in the Rossi 92 I have three Rossi 92s, 357, 44, & 45 Colt. None will feed loads with a Keith type SWC. Can the Rossi be modified in some way to reliably feed this popular bullet style? TIA.

February 27, 2013, 11:57 PM	#4
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	Keith bullets.... ....are for revolvers. My Marlin 45 feeds Keiths alright but there is a much better bullet for the job. Use a RNFP bullet. The 45 caliber Lee 255 grain RNFP has a very large meplat and works perfectly well in both revolver and rifle. Of course, you have to cast them yourself; but they're worth it.

February 28, 2013, 12:18 AM	#5
QuarterHorse Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2010 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 421	Thoughts on 250gr rnfp SNS bullets in .452? It's all I could find and that's what's going in my New Vaquero and Rossi 92 when it arrives. __________________ Never enough toys

February 28, 2013, 12:43 AM	#6
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	Thoughts on 250gr rnfp SNS bullets in .452? I'm not sure what you mean. SNS? Could you elaborate? Are you wanting a load recommendation?

February 28, 2013, 08:26 AM	#7
QuarterHorse Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2010 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 421	S n S cast bullets, just curious of people using them? There is limited info when I searched on this site about em. Just wondering if you had experience __________________ Never enough toys

February 24, 2013, 11:29 AM	#2
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	IF it can be done, Nate "Kiowa" Jones ( www.stevesgunz.com ) would know, since he's the premier Model 92 gunsmith in the US. .

February 24, 2013, 04:18 PM	#3
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	You might try trimming a few cases shorter. This tends to help the longer bullet profiles feed in lever action rifles. The guy at the range that actualy shoots 170 grain Kieth style bullets loads them in a .38 Spcl case. They are also too long to chamber in a .38 Spcl gun. They drop in my .357 Mag and stick out of the cylinder of my .38 spcl. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

February 28, 2013, 09:00 AM	#8
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,894	Keith bullets function w/o any problem in my `92 (Chiappa) 357. But.... they will only do that in 38 Special case-lengths. Load that 38 to whatever PLUS-P+ velocities the bullet material (the limiting factor) will stand and don't worry about it.

February 28, 2013, 09:35 AM	#9
QuarterHorse Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2010 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 421	Mistake - edit __________________ Never enough toys

March 5, 2013, 08:05 PM	#10
OD#3 Junior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Posts: 12	I shot nothing but Keith bullets in my Rossi 92 in .45 Colt. I handloaded for it, and the loading recipes I used specified crimping over the front driving band. It always fed them without a hitch. I never tried crimping them in the crimping groove; perhaps that's your problem.

March 11, 2013, 10:45 PM	#11
rabbit hunter Member Join Date: April 7, 2011 Location: Near Las Vegas Posts: 30	Well, my R92 in 45 Colt now is feeding the Keith type bullets (crimped in the crimping groove) w/o problem. Funny thing about that carbine; before ever firing a shot, I dry fired it a couple times and the trigger broke ii two at the pivot pin. Five weeks later, back from Rossi, it functions ok. I'm still reduced to shooting 38 special in the 357 mag, and 44 special in the 44 mag, both with the Keith bullets. I guess I can live with that!

March 11, 2013, 10:49 PM	#12
rabbit hunter Member Join Date: April 7, 2011 Location: Near Las Vegas Posts: 30	Oh, yeah, I forgot to say that I have ordered some RNFP bullets to try in place of the Keith type. Will let you know how they work. Seems to be a delay in delivery due to demand. Wonder what DHS has to do with that?

March 12, 2013, 08:36 AM	#13
twobit Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2010 Location: Coyote Creak, SW Texas Posts: 597	I shoot RNFP lead 250 grain in my revolver and my 92 Rossi 45 colt. Feeds fine in the rifle. I buy them from Crown Bullet out of Florida in 500 or 1000 count boxes. __________________ Twobit, Strive to live up to the opinion that your dog has of you.

March 12, 2013, 11:18 AM	#14
Cheap 870 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 159	I have an old model Rossi carbine in 45colt & it's never had a problem chambering anything. The only complaints I have is the sights, I wish they had buckhorn's & with full power loads it kicks like 2 mules.

March 13, 2013, 01:45 PM	#15
TheBear Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2011 Posts: 303	Try using .38spec cases with your .357mag. works for me.

March 13, 2013, 06:05 PM	#16
jbondor Junior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 13	SWC in Rossi 92 I have had no problems loading 158 gr lead SWC of Keith design in either .357 or .38 special brass in my Rossie model 92. I seat the bullets in the lube groove for .38 cases to nearly duplicate the length of the .357 cartridge.