Rhino

Mossy500 · January 7, 2012, 09:48 PM

anyone have any experience with these, i like the look of them and have read the barrel flip is lighter since the barrel is lined up with the bottom of the cylinder. but other than that i haven't seen much about them.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2CHPR50DS-1.html

Cheapshooter · January 7, 2012, 10:58 PM

Several threads about the Chiappa Rhino on this forum. The "search" feature on the tool bar above will lead you to them.
I have no personal experience with them, and probably won't. Recoil isn't really an issue to me, and I think they have a lock work that is way overly complicated for a revolver. Besides that I think they are just plane butt ugly! But that alone hasn't kept me from buying other guns.

9mm · January 7, 2012, 11:03 PM

Wouldn't pay $700, if I won it in a raffle or something I keep it.

Mossy500 · January 8, 2012, 12:50 AM

there are several threads about it but about all i got from that is that many people think its ugly and complicated. I personally dont much care for traditional style revolvers in the first place so this one caught my eye.
im also not in love with the price tag but if i can get some decent info and stumble upon one and a good price, i cant say i wouldnt be going home with a new gun.

Wildshot · January 8, 2012, 03:12 AM

3 revolvers in my house. The wife has 2 and I have 1. I need to catch up. Figure I would go to the gun show next week-end and see if I can find one with a 4 " barrel. That is if I can get a decent trade for a rifle I no longer use or want.

Cheapshooter · January 8, 2012, 03:27 AM

Most threads I remember contained threads from people that owned, and liked the Rhino. Most say they noticed an appreciable reduction in muzzle flip, and felt recoil. I've posted comments myself mostly similar to my first one in this thread commenting on the looks, and complicated workings of the Rhino. I think I once said it looks like what a Hi-Point revolver would look like if they made one.
If you don't mind the appearance, and can get a good price, It would probably be a decent purchase for you.

Master Blaster 2 · January 8, 2012, 11:14 AM

I just ordered some Olive Wood grips for my Rhino snubbie. I do notice that new ones are coming with a fiber optic sight now. Old ones like mine are metal.

bbqbob51 · January 8, 2012, 06:14 PM

These revolvers are on my list of guns I would like to have, just way down on the list. There are other revolvers I want more but that being said I find the Rhinos to be futuristic cool looking. Kind of like the firearms used in that wonderful space cowboy series Firefly. They shoot what looks like hot-rodded 20th century guns and the rhinos look that way to me
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orionengnr · January 8, 2012, 06:54 PM

The Rhino is definitey a design that I am interested in.
I am a "traditional" S&W guy, but old dogs can learn new tricks, and if I find a Rhino at a reasonable price, I may have to give it a try.

Mossy500 · January 8, 2012, 09:33 PM

I talked to the guy at the gun counter at my local Fred Meyer and they just ordered a 4" rhino, gonna go check it out when it comes in.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 9, 2012, 01:15 PM

40 cal moon clip version is coming out at Shot.

C0untZer0 · January 15, 2012, 09:39 PM

On their website now they list the 40 S&W, while I've heard talk of a 9mm they list 9x21 on their website.

What exactly does 9x21 mean? In the Taurus 905, you can fire the revolver without stellar clips because the 9x19 cartridges space on the case rim. So for the Rhino, does it mean that you can fire 9mm parabellum, but only with moon clips?

Does the Rhino fire 9mm IMI and 9mm Parabellum?

Also - I've heard it refered to as 357/9mm conversion.

Is the 9mm not a separate firearm?

**Tom Servo** · January 15, 2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

40 cal moon clip version is coming out at Shot.

Wait. .40 S&W or 10mm? If it's 10mm, I might get one of these.

I've shot the .357, and the comments about reduction in muzzle-flip are correct. It was a comfortable shooter, and the trigger wasn't bad at all.

Two things give me pause. The first is the lockwork, which is really complicated, and not very user-friendly. The second is minor but bears mentioning: the fiber optic inserts they use in their sights are fragile and seem to break quite often.

Still, I see it as a modernized Mateba without all the silly self-cocking nonsense, and that just makes it nifty in my book.

Acerdog · January 15, 2012, 10:20 PM

I have never fired one , thought they were ugly. Then last week i seen one in person they look better in person. Handles nice to.

Shadi Khalil · January 15, 2012, 10:27 PM

For any one who has not done so, do a you tube search on the Rhino. It's pretty cool to watch the gun barely jump with .357 mags. I think they are very interesting.

C0untZer0 · January 15, 2012, 11:07 PM

.40 S&W, and from what I've heard the cylinder is not long enough to fit 10mm

But what about this 9x21 ????

I'm assuming that if you dropped a 9mm Luger in the Chiappa cylinder it would drop 2mm inside the chamber? So if I use the Taurus 905 as an example, the chamber diameter is 0.392" for the first 0.754 inches of the cylinder, then it narrows to 0.359" or somehwere thereabout. But it looks like the Chiappa chamber diameter is 0.392" for the first 0.833" of the cylinder.

Or are those tapered chambers?

Well even if they are tapered, if you have your 9mm rounds secured by a moon clip in the Chiappa, aren't they kind of hanging in an oversized chamber? The 9mm case rim is sitting 2mm back from where the chamber narrows to roughly the size of the bullet. Right ?

pelo801 · January 15, 2012, 11:09 PM

i have a 2 inch rhino. i think this thing is great. it's fun to shoot, it's unique. the lockwork does make me some what nervous. but i'm shooting it anyways. the price is a little hefty, but now completely out of line either. i think they look cool, like i said before unique, the muzzle controlability, all makes it worth it to me. i've loaded up some decently hot .357 just to see how it does. it was loud, but almost mild recoil and flip in my opinon. if you can get past the price and aren't hung up on the Fugly, they are cool guns.

C0untZer0 · January 15, 2012, 11:15 PM

How is the trigger in SA ?

B.N.Real · January 15, 2012, 11:46 PM

Novel idea,butt ugly,expensive,no thanks.

C0untZer0 · January 16, 2012, 10:22 AM

MKS distributes for Chiappa in the U.S. and I called them this morning to ask about the 9mm Chiappa and the 9x21 listing on Chiappa's website.

The lady from MKS said:

1) MKS is not listing anything but the 357 magnum Rhinos on their MKS website because the other calibers are not even close to going into production

2) She has no idea why Chiappa listed it as 9x21 on the Chiappa website.

3) She wishes Chiappa had the Rhino in 9mm because they've been getting a lot of calls on it...

I also filled out a contact form on Chiappa's website and asked them about the 9x21 so I hope they send me an e-mail on it.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 16, 2012, 11:06 AM

Sigh - just search.

9x21 is a round for countries where civilians can't own military rounds - ones used by the armed forces.

You can get Glocks chambered in it.

See, very easy to find out. Given the gun is Italian - that probably explains it.

Doubtful someone in the USA not truly being expert would know that. Or someone who can use the Google.

No need to panic.

Doubtful the gun would come here. Would it chamber a standard 9mmx19? Don't know that.

C0untZer0 · January 16, 2012, 11:33 AM

I already did search - I identified the 9x21 as 9mm IMI (the Isreali round) in my post.

Quote:

Does the Rhino fire 9mm IMI and 9mm Parabellum?

It may be that the rumor of a Rhino chambering 9mm - meant 9mm IMI - not 9mm parabellum.

Maybe they'll have something about it at SHOT show. (only 1 more day

)

.

C0untZer0 · January 16, 2012, 11:41 AM

Back in August Chiappa posted a video to YouTube that says:

Quote:

The new Rhino 9mm / .357 combo and .40 S&W are here! Available in 2", 4", 5" & 6" barrel lengths (Availability may be limited in some barrel lengths) Contact your dealer today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deh8IJqpu0I

So that sounds like the 9mm is not a separate gun, but just a cylinder conversion for a 357 Rhino.

They also said "contact your dealer today!" And that was back in August...

Glenn E. Meyer · January 16, 2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

What exactly does 9x21 mean?

She has no idea why Chiappa listed it as 9x21 on the Chiappa website.

Sure sounded confused to me. Be more clear next time.

C0untZer0 · March 29, 2012, 01:37 AM

MKS guns isn't carrying either one yet though...

January 7, 2012, 09:48 PM	#1
Mossy500 Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2009 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 120	Rhino anyone have any experience with these, i like the look of them and have read the barrel flip is lighter since the barrel is lined up with the bottom of the cylinder. but other than that i haven't seen much about them. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2CHPR50DS-1.html __________________ NRA member "Its only illegal if you get caught" Last edited by Mossy500; January 7, 2012 at 10:00 PM.

January 7, 2012, 10:58 PM	#2
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Several threads about the Chiappa Rhino on this forum. The "search" feature on the tool bar above will lead you to them. I have no personal experience with them, and probably won't. Recoil isn't really an issue to me, and I think they have a lock work that is way overly complicated for a revolver. Besides that I think they are just plane butt ugly! But that alone hasn't kept me from buying other guns. __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING! Last edited by Cheapshooter; January 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM.

January 8, 2012, 12:50 AM	#4
Mossy500 Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2009 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 120	there are several threads about it but about all i got from that is that many people think its ugly and complicated. I personally dont much care for traditional style revolvers in the first place so this one caught my eye. im also not in love with the price tag but if i can get some decent info and stumble upon one and a good price, i cant say i wouldnt be going home with a new gun. __________________ NRA member "Its only illegal if you get caught"

January 8, 2012, 03:12 AM	#5
Wildshot Member Join Date: October 10, 2011 Location: Camano Island, Wa. Posts: 86	3 revolvers in my house. The wife has 2 and I have 1. I need to catch up. Figure I would go to the gun show next week-end and see if I can find one with a 4 " barrel. That is if I can get a decent trade for a rifle I no longer use or want. __________________ Gun control means useing a 2 handed grip.

January 8, 2012, 03:27 AM	#6
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Most threads I remember contained threads from people that owned, and liked the Rhino. Most say they noticed an appreciable reduction in muzzle flip, and felt recoil. I've posted comments myself mostly similar to my first one in this thread commenting on the looks, and complicated workings of the Rhino. I think I once said it looks like what a Hi-Point revolver would look like if they made one. If you don't mind the appearance, and can get a good price, It would probably be a decent purchase for you. __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

January 7, 2012, 11:03 PM	#3
9mm Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2011 Location: Land of the Free Posts: 2,834	Wouldn't pay $700, if I won it in a raffle or something I keep it.

January 8, 2012, 11:14 AM	#7
Master Blaster 2 Junior member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Posts: 895	I just ordered some Olive Wood grips for my Rhino snubbie. I do notice that new ones are coming with a fiber optic sight now. Old ones like mine are metal.

January 8, 2012, 06:54 PM	#9
orionengnr Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2004 Posts: 5,173	The Rhino is definitey a design that I am interested in. I am a "traditional" S&W guy, but old dogs can learn new tricks, and if I find a Rhino at a reasonable price, I may have to give it a try.

January 8, 2012, 09:33 PM	#10
Mossy500 Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2009 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 120	I talked to the guy at the gun counter at my local Fred Meyer and they just ordered a 4" rhino, gonna go check it out when it comes in. __________________ NRA member "Its only illegal if you get caught"

January 9, 2012, 01:15 PM	#11
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	40 cal moon clip version is coming out at Shot. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 15, 2012, 09:39 PM	#12
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	I'm confused about the 9mm Rhino On their website now they list the 40 S&W, while I've heard talk of a 9mm they list 9x21 on their website. What exactly does 9x21 mean? In the Taurus 905, you can fire the revolver without stellar clips because the 9x19 cartridges space on the case rim. So for the Rhino, does it mean that you can fire 9mm parabellum, but only with moon clips? Does the Rhino fire 9mm IMI and 9mm Parabellum? Also - I've heard it refered to as 357/9mm conversion. Is the 9mm not a separate firearm? Last edited by C0untZer0; January 15, 2012 at 11:11 PM.

January 15, 2012, 10:20 PM	#14
Acerdog Member Join Date: December 31, 2010 Location: UT Posts: 82	I have never fired one , thought they were ugly. Then last week i seen one in person they look better in person. Handles nice to.

January 15, 2012, 10:27 PM	#15
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	For any one who has not done so, do a you tube search on the Rhino. It's pretty cool to watch the gun barely jump with .357 mags. I think they are very interesting.

January 15, 2012, 11:07 PM	#16
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	.40 S&W, and from what I've heard the cylinder is not long enough to fit 10mm But what about this 9x21 ???? I'm assuming that if you dropped a 9mm Luger in the Chiappa cylinder it would drop 2mm inside the chamber? So if I use the Taurus 905 as an example, the chamber diameter is 0.392" for the first 0.754 inches of the cylinder, then it narrows to 0.359" or somehwere thereabout. But it looks like the Chiappa chamber diameter is 0.392" for the first 0.833" of the cylinder. Or are those tapered chambers? Well even if they are tapered, if you have your 9mm rounds secured by a moon clip in the Chiappa, aren't they kind of hanging in an oversized chamber? The 9mm case rim is sitting 2mm back from where the chamber narrows to roughly the size of the bullet. Right ? Last edited by C0untZer0; January 15, 2012 at 11:13 PM.

January 15, 2012, 11:09 PM	#17
pelo801 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2009 Posts: 718	i have a 2 inch rhino. i think this thing is great. it's fun to shoot, it's unique. the lockwork does make me some what nervous. but i'm shooting it anyways. the price is a little hefty, but now completely out of line either. i think they look cool, like i said before unique, the muzzle controlability, all makes it worth it to me. i've loaded up some decently hot .357 just to see how it does. it was loud, but almost mild recoil and flip in my opinon. if you can get past the price and aren't hung up on the Fugly, they are cool guns.

January 15, 2012, 11:15 PM	#18
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	How is the trigger in SA ?

January 15, 2012, 11:46 PM	#19
B.N.Real Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Posts: 4,092	Novel idea,butt ugly,expensive,no thanks.

January 16, 2012, 10:22 AM	#20
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	MKS distributes for Chiappa in the U.S. and I called them this morning to ask about the 9mm Chiappa and the 9x21 listing on Chiappa's website. The lady from MKS said: 1) MKS is not listing anything but the 357 magnum Rhinos on their MKS website because the other calibers are not even close to going into production 2) She has no idea why Chiappa listed it as 9x21 on the Chiappa website. 3) She wishes Chiappa had the Rhino in 9mm because they've been getting a lot of calls on it... I also filled out a contact form on Chiappa's website and asked them about the 9x21 so I hope they send me an e-mail on it. Last edited by C0untZer0; January 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM.

January 16, 2012, 11:06 AM	#21
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Sigh - just search. 9x21 is a round for countries where civilians can't own military rounds - ones used by the armed forces. You can get Glocks chambered in it. See, very easy to find out. Given the gun is Italian - that probably explains it. Doubtful someone in the USA not truly being expert would know that. Or someone who can use the Google. No need to panic. Doubtful the gun would come here. Would it chamber a standard 9mmx19? Don't know that. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens