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Al Norris · April 15, 2008, 07:41 AM

sailsunfurled, did you read the sticky at the top of this page: REQUIRED READ for those posting Extra Heavy Load Information?

I ask because several of your loads appear to above maximum published loads. Lyman's shows a maximum load of Blue Dot at 7.1gr and it shows this to be a compressed load (at the given OAL of 1.075).

sailsunfurled · April 15, 2008, 08:49 AM

Antipitas, thanks for sticky reminder.

I gathered my max reload point from Alliant Powder's web site which is 8.2gr max for a 125 FMJ and also my Lee Die set data sheet which stops Max at 8.2gr for the 125 FMJ. The bullet weight on my test run was 124.2gr to 125.1gr. I grouped them by weight.

Looking into my references, I never got to max load @ 8.0gr on my hottest test run.

After the "discovery" on my part of finding no published data on a 135gr 9mm loads and then making the true discovery of the real bullet weight, I thought I would pass my load finds to others that had bought this bargain :-)

Al Norris · April 15, 2008, 01:26 PM

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure the data was published, as my Lyman's and Hornady manuals show a much smaller charge.

Al Norris · April 17, 2008, 11:13 PM

Just received this email from ATK (Federal/Speer):

Quote:

Al: we do not sell the bullet as a component bullet so we did not
produce/develop any load data. Sorry!

Shoot Straight!
Coy Getman
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
Sr. Technical Coordinator
(866) 286-7436 ext 5351

I hate reading between the lines... but.... Does this mean that there is a 135gr EFMJ in 9mm, as I was led to believe in my phone conversation?

MrApathy · April 17, 2008, 11:54 PM

Sierra makes a 135gr bullet. Accurate list data for it.
most data I am seeing for 130/135gr FMJ bullets are using +/- .2gr of the max load for 147gr FMJ bullet. no OAL variance. per lee data that came with die set.
38super IIRC uses 130-135gr bullets though good luck working that back to 9mm.

if you have lymans might check 9x21 data. my lymans 48th list 130gr Sierra FMJ data.

if ya have a powder call it out unless I missed it.
would go with a slower burning powder and load it a little long while chronographing.

April 15, 2008, 08:49 AM	#27
sailsunfurled Junior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Posts: 3	Data Antipitas, thanks for sticky reminder. I gathered my max reload point from Alliant Powder's web site which is 8.2gr max for a 125 FMJ and also my Lee Die set data sheet which stops Max at 8.2gr for the 125 FMJ. The bullet weight on my test run was 124.2gr to 125.1gr. I grouped them by weight. Looking into my references, I never got to max load @ 8.0gr on my hottest test run. After the "discovery" on my part of finding no published data on a 135gr 9mm loads and then making the true discovery of the real bullet weight, I thought I would pass my load finds to others that had bought this bargain :-) Last edited by sailsunfurled; April 15, 2008 at 08:56 AM. Reason: Added weight grouping statement

April 17, 2008, 11:54 PM	#30
MrApathy Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Posts: 529	Sierra makes a 135gr bullet. Accurate list data for it. most data I am seeing for 130/135gr FMJ bullets are using +/- .2gr of the max load for 147gr FMJ bullet. no OAL variance. per lee data that came with die set. 38super IIRC uses 130-135gr bullets though good luck working that back to 9mm. if you have lymans might check 9x21 data. my lymans 48th list 130gr Sierra FMJ data. if ya have a powder call it out unless I missed it. would go with a slower burning powder and load it a little long while chronographing. __________________ Divided and conquered, Gripped by fear Wishful thinking that it can't happen here It's well underways but nobody knows A repeat of history, That's how it goes

April 15, 2008, 07:41 AM	#26
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	sailsunfurled, did you read the sticky at the top of this page: REQUIRED READ for those posting Extra Heavy Load Information? I ask because several of your loads appear to above maximum published loads. Lyman's shows a maximum load of Blue Dot at 7.1gr and it shows this to be a compressed load (at the given OAL of 1.075).

April 15, 2008, 01:26 PM	#28
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Thanks. I just wanted to make sure the data was published, as my Lyman's and Hornady manuals show a much smaller charge.