S&W Sigma 9VE

tido879 · March 26, 2011, 07:22 PM

Thinking of making this my first handgun purchase. If there is a reason not to buy this gun please let me know, it did seem a little too reasonable priced.

mellow_c · March 26, 2011, 07:53 PM

SW9VE is a fantastically great gun considering the price. I've seen nothing but 100% reliability from them. Just learn to handle the trigger and you'll be happy you have it.

kinggabby · March 26, 2011, 08:17 PM

Just got my SW9VE to the range for the first time 300 rounds no issues... Other than heavy trigger pull awesome so far.

Rugerismisticness · March 26, 2011, 08:23 PM

Search the web as hard as I did and you still won't find a negative thing about the sigma, except for the trigger. The trigger breaks in and gets smoother. If you think of it like a DA revolver, the trigger isn't bad. There are also many modifications to smooth and lighten the trigger to around 6lbs (S&W forum). My sigma hasn't been shot for some time, but when I bought it, I put 2500 rnds through it shooting every month. Never a jam.

Sarge · March 26, 2011, 08:28 PM

I have the 40VE and have been nothing but pleased with it.

blchandl2 · March 26, 2011, 08:32 PM

My SW9VE ownership experience was anything but positive. I could not get more than 3 consecutive shots without some type of failure. Tried multiple magazines, ammo, and shooters. It was a dud.

All manufacturers make a bad one from time to time. First impressions are lasting impressions.

bossman · March 26, 2011, 08:39 PM

Go for it, they're a great gun for the money. I can't even venture a guess at how many rounds I have down range. No problems what so ever.

AustinTX · March 26, 2011, 09:18 PM

In my experience, they're solid, no-frills, reliable guns. The trigger is not particularly good, but it's better than that of the old Sigma. Ergonomics are nice. And the gun is backed by S&W's unsurpassed customer service.

If I were shopping in that price range, I would buy a Ruger P95 instead, but that's just my preference.

kinggabby · March 26, 2011, 09:27 PM

Just a word of warning changing the trigger pull ( according to an email I received from S&W ) would void your warranty.

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From: Branchesi,Frank ([email protected])
Sent: Fri 3/18/11 6:37 AM
To: David *******@*******.com)

Hi, yes it could void your warranty. Although the trigger is stiffer than most the good news is the trigger pull will get better with use.

From: David [mailto:********@*****.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:07 AM
To: Smith & Wesson Support
Subject: SW9ve

I recently purchased a Sigma and I know it has a heavy trigger pull. My question is if I were to have the trigger pull lowered to about 5-6 lbs would that void my warranty? I wanted to ask you all first. Because I don't want to have that voided.

Thank you
New Sigma Owner

Onward Allusion · March 26, 2011, 11:11 PM

Great guns for the money. Reliable, inexpensive, solid ergonomics, excellent capacity, & able to accept rail accessories (with $10 adapter). Even the heavy trigger has a purpose in adrenaline charged situations.

mellow_c · March 26, 2011, 11:17 PM

Onward Allusion...
Do you have a link to that adapter for rail accessories????

Onward Allusion · March 27, 2011, 12:12 AM

Allows you to use standard Picatinney accessories.

http://www.shop.laserlyte.com/produc...&categoryId=10

It comes in two pieces that clamp onto your non-std rail. BTW, the trick to installing these things is to thread the hex nut with the screw and use that to push the hex nut into it's recepticle & unthread the screw to leave the nut in place. Otherwise it is a nightmare trying to drop a hex nut in to connect the two parts.

38superhero · March 27, 2011, 12:40 AM

Get it...

microman · March 27, 2011, 01:17 AM

They are ok guns. Just a little heavy trigger thats all.

Leejack · March 27, 2011, 06:57 AM

I like the sigma. No frills, reliable, simple to operate and take apart, lots of fun.

Kreyzhorse · March 27, 2011, 07:46 AM

For the money, they are great guns. The trigger can be pretty gritty, and I'll be honest, I think their triggers are terrible. With that said, my buddy has one and despite the trigger, it's a good shooting gun that is reliable and accurate.

I'd asked to dry fire one and if you can live with the trigger, it is a good choice.

Also look at the Ruger P95 and compare it to the Sigma. Both are good guns but I think the Ruger has a better trigger.

Marlin.357 · March 27, 2011, 10:21 AM

Good gun for the money. Very good ergonomics, small grip, good for us folks with short fingers. Trigger pull is long and heavy, similar to a double action revolver. Will smooth out and get a little lighter with use. No external safeties, just point & shoot. No mag safety either.

it's not a target pistol, but IMHO a good home defense, or self-defense pistol.

ThomasT · March 27, 2011, 07:34 PM

I am on my second Sigma, I sold the first because I didn't like the feel of the trigger. I regretted selling that gun because it always worked. No matter what ammo.

So I bought a second gun that was all black and came with a high intensity flashlight plus a $50 rebate and two free mags. One heck of a promotion for a $300 pistol. It shot just fine too and looks 10 times better than the silver and black.

It did have a gritty trigger and no amount of lube would make it better. I watched a video on doing a trigger job and did that. I didn't do all that was recommended to do in the video. The biggest improvement came from from removing the inner spring from the two piece trigger spring. The video recommended removing a second spring also and I did that but there didn't seem to be a big improvement so I left the the second spring in place.

Its still not a super good trigger but light years better than it was. The fix was easy to do and would be very easy to undo if I ever want to sell it. I think it is one of the best handgun values you can get. I don't have anymore in this gun than I would have in a HiPoint 9mm pistol and its a good easy to shoot gun.

littleman · March 31, 2011, 06:16 PM

I got a new SW40VE at the first of March. I fired it 30 rounds with no problems and good accuracy. I had put a drop of Militech 1 up in the striker area. S&W told me by email that it would not harm the gun to dry fire, so I did this quite a few times. The trigger pull got better. And then, I dry fired it 2 days ago so I could remove the slide. When I pulled the trigger, the tip of the striker broke off and fell into my shoe; lucky, or I would not have known it until I might have needed the gun RIGHT NOW. My dealer has it enroute to S&W; he is a licenced S&W armorer, but they will not send him the part to fix it! Brownells site says the Sigma striker is STRICTLY factory installed ONLY.

March 26, 2011, 07:22 PM	#1
tido879 Junior Member Join Date: March 26, 2011 Posts: 11	S&W Sigma 9VE Thinking of making this my first handgun purchase. If there is a reason not to buy this gun please let me know, it did seem a little too reasonable priced.

March 26, 2011, 08:28 PM	#5
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	I have the 40VE and have been nothing but pleased with it. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

March 26, 2011, 08:39 PM	#7
bossman Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 996	Go for it, they're a great gun for the money. I can't even venture a guess at how many rounds I have down range. No problems what so ever. __________________ NRA life member When the going gets tough, I just open another beer.

March 26, 2011, 11:11 PM	#10
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	Great guns for the money. Reliable, inexpensive, solid ergonomics, excellent capacity, & able to accept rail accessories (with $10 adapter). Even the heavy trigger has a purpose in adrenaline charged situations. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

March 27, 2011, 12:12 AM	#12
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	Allows you to use standard Picatinney accessories. http://www.shop.laserlyte.com/produc...&categoryId=10 It comes in two pieces that clamp onto your non-std rail. BTW, the trick to installing these things is to thread the hex nut with the screw and use that to push the hex nut into it's recepticle & unthread the screw to leave the nut in place. Otherwise it is a nightmare trying to drop a hex nut in to connect the two parts. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

March 26, 2011, 07:53 PM	#2
mellow_c Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,862	SW9VE is a fantastically great gun considering the price. I've seen nothing but 100% reliability from them. Just learn to handle the trigger and you'll be happy you have it.

March 26, 2011, 08:17 PM	#3
kinggabby Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Location: OKC Posts: 502	Just got my SW9VE to the range for the first time 300 rounds no issues... Other than heavy trigger pull awesome so far.

March 26, 2011, 08:23 PM	#4
Rugerismisticness Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2010 Posts: 909	Search the web as hard as I did and you still won't find a negative thing about the sigma, except for the trigger. The trigger breaks in and gets smoother. If you think of it like a DA revolver, the trigger isn't bad. There are also many modifications to smooth and lighten the trigger to around 6lbs (S&W forum). My sigma hasn't been shot for some time, but when I bought it, I put 2500 rnds through it shooting every month. Never a jam.

March 26, 2011, 08:32 PM	#6
blchandl2 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2008 Location: TN Posts: 525	My SW9VE ownership experience was anything but positive. I could not get more than 3 consecutive shots without some type of failure. Tried multiple magazines, ammo, and shooters. It was a dud. All manufacturers make a bad one from time to time. First impressions are lasting impressions.

March 26, 2011, 09:18 PM	#8
AustinTX Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 2,145	In my experience, they're solid, no-frills, reliable guns. The trigger is not particularly good, but it's better than that of the old Sigma. Ergonomics are nice. And the gun is backed by S&W's unsurpassed customer service. If I were shopping in that price range, I would buy a Ruger P95 instead, but that's just my preference.

March 26, 2011, 09:27 PM	#9
kinggabby Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Location: OKC Posts: 502	Just a word of warning changing the trigger pull ( according to an email I received from S&W ) would void your warranty. Branchesi,Frank * [email protected] Branchesi,Frank [email protected] * * Send email * Find email Add to contacts To David From: Branchesi,Frank ([email protected]) Sent: Fri 3/18/11 6:37 AM To: David *****@***.com) Hi, yes it could void your warranty. Although the trigger is stiffer than most the good news is the trigger pull will get better with use. From: David [mailto:****@***.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:07 AM To: Smith & Wesson Support Subject: SW9ve I recently purchased a Sigma and I know it has a heavy trigger pull. My question is if I were to have the trigger pull lowered to about 5-6 lbs would that void my warranty? I wanted to ask you all first. Because I don't want to have that voided. Thank you New Sigma Owner

March 26, 2011, 11:17 PM	#11
mellow_c Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,862	Onward Allusion... Do you have a link to that adapter for rail accessories????

March 27, 2011, 12:40 AM	#13
38superhero Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2007 Posts: 561	Get it...

March 27, 2011, 01:17 AM	#14
microman Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2011 Posts: 428	They are ok guns. Just a little heavy trigger thats all.

March 27, 2011, 06:57 AM	#15
Leejack Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: The Alamo! Posts: 2,056	I like the sigma. No frills, reliable, simple to operate and take apart, lots of fun.

March 27, 2011, 07:46 AM	#16
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	For the money, they are great guns. The trigger can be pretty gritty, and I'll be honest, I think their triggers are terrible. With that said, my buddy has one and despite the trigger, it's a good shooting gun that is reliable and accurate. I'd asked to dry fire one and if you can live with the trigger, it is a good choice. Also look at the Ruger P95 and compare it to the Sigma. Both are good guns but I think the Ruger has a better trigger. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

March 27, 2011, 10:21 AM	#17
Marlin.357 Member Join Date: April 22, 2005 Posts: 28	Good gun for the money. Very good ergonomics, small grip, good for us folks with short fingers. Trigger pull is long and heavy, similar to a double action revolver. Will smooth out and get a little lighter with use. No external safeties, just point & shoot. No mag safety either. it's not a target pistol, but IMHO a good home defense, or self-defense pistol. __________________ The difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference, in practice there is.

March 27, 2011, 07:34 PM	#18
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	I am on my second Sigma, I sold the first because I didn't like the feel of the trigger. I regretted selling that gun because it always worked. No matter what ammo. So I bought a second gun that was all black and came with a high intensity flashlight plus a $50 rebate and two free mags. One heck of a promotion for a $300 pistol. It shot just fine too and looks 10 times better than the silver and black. It did have a gritty trigger and no amount of lube would make it better. I watched a video on doing a trigger job and did that. I didn't do all that was recommended to do in the video. The biggest improvement came from from removing the inner spring from the two piece trigger spring. The video recommended removing a second spring also and I did that but there didn't seem to be a big improvement so I left the the second spring in place. Its still not a super good trigger but light years better than it was. The fix was easy to do and would be very easy to undo if I ever want to sell it. I think it is one of the best handgun values you can get. I don't have anymore in this gun than I would have in a HiPoint 9mm pistol and its a good easy to shoot gun.

March 31, 2011, 06:16 PM	#19
littleman Member Join Date: March 31, 2011 Posts: 16	I got a new SW40VE at the first of March. I fired it 30 rounds with no problems and good accuracy. I had put a drop of Militech 1 up in the striker area. S&W told me by email that it would not harm the gun to dry fire, so I did this quite a few times. The trigger pull got better. And then, I dry fired it 2 days ago so I could remove the slide. When I pulled the trigger, the tip of the striker broke off and fell into my shoe; lucky, or I would not have known it until I might have needed the gun RIGHT NOW. My dealer has it enroute to S&W; he is a licenced S&W armorer, but they will not send him the part to fix it! Brownells site says the Sigma striker is STRICTLY factory installed ONLY.

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