reloading 454

old45reloader · November 11, 2007, 02:45 PM

Looking for data for titegroup&hp-38 255swc. Like see what you guys have to say thanks

Linear Thinker · November 12, 2007, 05:36 PM

454 Cas has a huge case, not suitable for fast powders like HP38 or Titegroup.

There's lots of data for 45 Colt using HP38 or Titegroup, that's the way to go - just use the 45 brass in 454 Cas chamber.

My favorite load for many years was 8.0gr of Winchester 231, which is the same powder as HP38, under 255gr. SWCs. I switched to Trail Boss nowadays.

If you have to use the 454 brass, I would use the 45 Colt loads, and pad the empty space with corn-meal or Puff-lon.

Not quite on-topic: my light load for 454 is 26 grains of Enforcer under 255gr jacketed bullets. The fireball is spectacular, and the recoil is mild (well... comparatively)
LT

old45reloader · November 12, 2007, 06:59 PM

Thanks Liner Thinker I reloaded alot of 45lc like shooting those,but have alot of 454 brass i want to load. I will try your load and see the fireball. THANKS

314EPW · November 13, 2007, 03:12 PM

Who makes Enforcer?What fps do you get with this lite load?How's the group.I'm using win 296 32 grain,250 jph from Hornady and am only getting 2" groups at 50 yards.1600 fps(From a rest)I'm told this Raging Bull should do better!
Ed

50 shooter · November 13, 2007, 04:26 PM

Try www.loadswap.com there's alot of different loads for the .454 Casull there.

Linear Thinker · November 13, 2007, 11:28 PM

314 - the Enforcer powder is made in Belgium and marketed by Ramshot. I bought a bunch of it a couple of years ago, when Graf's was selling it at ~$8/pound.

It was advertised as being a ballistic clone of Accurate #9, which was (and still is) my favorite 357/44 mag powder.

I could never equal the velocities I got from #9 with Enforcer, so I use the Enforcer for 454 light loads only nowadays.
I did not chrono the 454 Enforcer load as yet, but it is accurate.
My heavy load is same as yours, by the way. 296 does not take kindly to downloading the charges, that's where the Enforcer is useful for me.
LT

November 11, 2007, 02:45 PM	#1
old45reloader Junior Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: pacific,wa Posts: 9	reloading 454 Looking for data for titegroup&hp-38 255swc. Like see what you guys have to say thanks

November 12, 2007, 05:36 PM	#2
Linear Thinker Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2007 Location: Blue State, NE US Posts: 202	454 Cas has a huge case, not suitable for fast powders like HP38 or Titegroup. There's lots of data for 45 Colt using HP38 or Titegroup, that's the way to go - just use the 45 brass in 454 Cas chamber. My favorite load for many years was 8.0gr of Winchester 231, which is the same powder as HP38, under 255gr. SWCs. I switched to Trail Boss nowadays. If you have to use the 454 brass, I would use the 45 Colt loads, and pad the empty space with corn-meal or Puff-lon. Not quite on-topic: my light load for 454 is 26 grains of Enforcer under 255gr jacketed bullets. The fireball is spectacular, and the recoil is mild (well... comparatively) LT Last edited by Linear Thinker; November 13, 2007 at 11:16 PM.

November 12, 2007, 06:59 PM	#3
old45reloader Junior Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: pacific,wa Posts: 9	reloading 454 Thanks Liner Thinker I reloaded alot of 45lc like shooting those,but have alot of 454 brass i want to load. I will try your load and see the fireball. THANKS

November 13, 2007, 03:12 PM	#4
314EPW Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2007 Posts: 108	Enforcer? Who makes Enforcer?What fps do you get with this lite load?How's the group.I'm using win 296 32 grain,250 jph from Hornady and am only getting 2" groups at 50 yards.1600 fps(From a rest)I'm told this Raging Bull should do better! Ed

November 13, 2007, 04:26 PM	#5
50 shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2002 Location: SoCal PRK Posts: 986	Try www.loadswap.com there's alot of different loads for the .454 Casull there. __________________ I see the world thru bloodshot eyes Streets filled with blood from distant lies The dogs of war never compromise, No time for rearranging.

November 13, 2007, 11:28 PM	#6
Linear Thinker Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2007 Location: Blue State, NE US Posts: 202	314 - the Enforcer powder is made in Belgium and marketed by Ramshot. I bought a bunch of it a couple of years ago, when Graf's was selling it at ~$8/pound. It was advertised as being a ballistic clone of Accurate #9, which was (and still is) my favorite 357/44 mag powder. I could never equal the velocities I got from #9 with Enforcer, so I use the Enforcer for 454 light loads only nowadays. I did not chrono the 454 Enforcer load as yet, but it is accurate. My heavy load is same as yours, by the way. 296 does not take kindly to downloading the charges, that's where the Enforcer is useful for me. LT