Grand Power P1 Mk7 - Page 2

gyvel · August 23, 2014, 02:07 AM

More than likely it is a fine weapon, but I, for one, don't like to be a beta tester. Too many other proven weapons available on the market.

Cyanide971 · August 23, 2014, 08:43 PM

It is not exactly new, and I doubt the Slovakian military would adopt it otherwise w/o it proving itself.

But that's why I'm being the Guinea Pig for yall....

DT Guy · August 23, 2014, 08:59 PM

IIRC, this is the same basic gun STI was selling as the GP6, and the basic design has been around since '94; what do you consider a suitable 'beta' test?

Larry

gyvel · August 24, 2014, 04:50 PM

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IIRC, this is the same basic gun STI was selling as the GP6, and the basic design has been around since '94; what do you consider a suitable 'beta' test?

I don't want to be the guinea pig looking for an authorized service center or replacement parts.

I'm sure the Slovakian armed forces don't have those problems, but Slovakia is in central Europe, not here.

Cyanide971 · August 24, 2014, 05:27 PM

And is why my CZ is my #1 EDC, with Steyr #2, Gyvel. But IF I have any issues and Century Arms is unable to get me parts, I've no problem sending an email or calling directly to Grand Power to get what I need.

Cyanide971 · October 10, 2014, 10:28 PM

Comparison with my CZ P-01....

Well, I finally got the GP back from the babysitter and decided to snap a few pics next to my P-01. I won't be able to do an actual range comparison for another few weeks, so I've been dry firing both of them quite a bit, SA and DA. The trigger on the Grand Power is still tops, but especially in DA, where it is noticeably a much lighter, smoother pull. So without a doubt my CZ's will eventually be getting some love from CGW, as the P-01and '14 P-07 are still my #1 & 2 choices for carry. 'Nuff said!

I've listed the trigger measurements from the starting point at rest, then when all slack is taken out of the trigger and you actually start hitting resistance, when the hammer is released, and how far out the reset is.

Also, I measured these from the centerpoint on the rear of the trigger, to the rear most inside of trigger guard (subject to correction). When possible, I will get the pull weights measured and list those asap.

P-01 (and my 2014 P-07):
SA Start: 10mm
SA Take up: 4mm
BANG: 2mm
Reset: 6mm

DA Start: 17mm
DA Take up: 15mm
DA ½ Cock: 12mm
BANG: 2mm

Grand Power P1 Mk7:
SA Start: 3mm
SA Take up: 1mm
BANG: 0mm
Reset: 2mm

DA Start: 13mm
DA Take up: 11mm
DA ½ Cock: 8mm
BANG: 0mm

Now for the customary pictures. CZ on left, Grand Power on right.

Here's a combo shot of the GP slide and frame, showing the rails and lugs for the rotating barrel.

SpareMag · October 13, 2014, 08:56 PM

I have not heard of Grand Power. Where does one find them, and what price range are they in?

Cyanide971 · October 13, 2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpareMag

I have not heard of Grand Power. Where does one find them, and what price range are they in?

I got mine from Bud's for $393, and it seems like current pricing still has them in that range and the low 400's, depending upon where you look.

Skans · October 14, 2014, 01:08 PM

Great review! Makes me want one even more.

Are there any large capacity magazines available that hold 17-19 rounds?

Cyanide971 · October 14, 2014, 02:09 PM

Skans, IIRC, Grand Power has 20-rd mags available for the 9mm model.

August 23, 2014, 02:07 AM	#26
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	More than likely it is a fine weapon, but I, for one, don't like to be a beta tester. Too many other proven weapons available on the market. __________________ As always, YMMV. __________________________________________ MIIAA SIFE

August 23, 2014, 08:59 PM	#28
DT Guy Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2001 Posts: 959	IIRC, this is the same basic gun STI was selling as the GP6, and the basic design has been around since '94; what do you consider a suitable 'beta' test? Larry __________________ He who fights and runs away had better run pretty damn fast. Government, Anarchy and Chaos

October 10, 2014, 10:28 PM	#31
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	Comparison with my CZ P-01.... Well, I finally got the GP back from the babysitter and decided to snap a few pics next to my P-01. I won't be able to do an actual range comparison for another few weeks, so I've been dry firing both of them quite a bit, SA and DA. The trigger on the Grand Power is still tops, but especially in DA, where it is noticeably a much lighter, smoother pull. So without a doubt my CZ's will eventually be getting some love from CGW, as the P-01and '14 P-07 are still my #1 & 2 choices for carry. 'Nuff said! I've listed the trigger measurements from the starting point at rest, then when all slack is taken out of the trigger and you actually start hitting resistance, when the hammer is released, and how far out the reset is. Also, I measured these from the centerpoint on the rear of the trigger, to the rear most inside of trigger guard (subject to correction). When possible, I will get the pull weights measured and list those asap. P-01 (and my 2014 P-07): SA Start: 10mm SA Take up: 4mm BANG: 2mm Reset: 6mm DA Start: 17mm DA Take up: 15mm DA ½ Cock: 12mm BANG: 2mm Grand Power P1 Mk7: SA Start: 3mm SA Take up: 1mm BANG: 0mm Reset: 2mm DA Start: 13mm DA Take up: 11mm DA ½ Cock: 8mm BANG: 0mm Now for the customary pictures. CZ on left, Grand Power on right. Here's a combo shot of the GP slide and frame, showing the rails and lugs for the rotating barrel. Last edited by Cyanide971; October 13, 2014 at 09:44 PM.

August 23, 2014, 08:43 PM	#27
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	It is not exactly new, and I doubt the Slovakian military would adopt it otherwise w/o it proving itself. But that's why I'm being the Guinea Pig for yall....

August 24, 2014, 05:27 PM	#30
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	And is why my CZ is my #1 EDC, with Steyr #2, Gyvel. But IF I have any issues and Century Arms is unable to get me parts, I've no problem sending an email or calling directly to Grand Power to get what I need.

October 13, 2014, 08:56 PM	#32
SpareMag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2012 Posts: 514	I have not heard of Grand Power. Where does one find them, and what price range are they in?

October 14, 2014, 01:08 PM	#34
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	Great review! Makes me want one even more. Are there any large capacity magazines available that hold 17-19 rounds?

October 14, 2014, 02:09 PM	#35
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	Skans, IIRC, Grand Power has 20-rd mags available for the 9mm model.