no 11 percussion caps

akinswi · August 3, 2014, 08:31 PM

Hey everybody my local walmart has Winchester no 11 "magnum" percussion caps. I was wondering if they will work on my 1851 navy revolver i currently use Remington no 11 caps and was wondering if there was a difference

thanks

Cheapshooter · August 3, 2014, 08:42 PM

Might get a more informed answer in this forum on TFL
http://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6
My guess is the "Magnum" might be a little hotter to ignite all the politically correct, phoney bolony black powder substitutes on the market for people who want to make centerfires out of their muzzle loading hunting rifles.

straight-shooter · August 4, 2014, 05:38 PM

I use the No. 11 magnum's all the time igniting Goex FFF.

No troubles....

Model12Win · August 4, 2014, 05:47 PM

Only way to find out?

Try em'!

I can guarantee you'll find yer answer then.

My local Wal-Mart stocks these to, but no other brand o' caps. Some day I'll have to try em' to on MY '51 Navy!

Trum4n1208 · August 4, 2014, 06:47 PM

I imagine they should work, they might be just a little bit too big, so you might have to pinch them a bit so they stay on the nipples. I will say, the Remingtons are better in my experience. But if it works and its what you have, go for it.

Hellgate · August 4, 2014, 09:53 PM

I believe the winchester caps are made by CCI to the same specs as CCI. The CCI#11 is "smaller" than the Remington#11. The Rem#11 is merely a shorter Rem#10 and therefore fits a fatter nipple cone. My guess is the Winch#11 will fall off under recoil unless pinched out of round.

akinswi · August 9, 2014, 11:14 PM

I love to find the same remington #11 caps i have but I cant find any in stock as matter fact i cant find any brand of caps online in-stock . anybody else have this issue?

straight-shooter · August 10, 2014, 06:21 AM

Same issue not finding them online but I did just score 3 tins of Remington #11 caps at Dunham sports locally. The price was ridiculous at $7.99 per tin but not much choice if I want to shoot.

Model12Win · August 10, 2014, 12:51 PM

I find my caps at the sporting outlets around my area.

wogpotter · August 10, 2014, 01:15 PM

They work fine on mine. It really depends on the nipples rather than the gun though I replaced my factory ones.
The "magnum" is just a bit more compound. If it does anything it'll marginally shorten your lock time, especially with substitutes.

hvymax · August 11, 2014, 08:30 AM

I have become spoiled with the new powders. I don't need a bucket of hot soapy water on standby anymore.

Sure Shot Mc Gee · August 11, 2014, 10:06 AM

I hunt my deer with 45 & 54 cal Hawken rifles. If your as tired as I was. Always being on the scout for overly priced #11s. Get one of these (below) and bring that frustration over the e~lusive nipple Cap to its end.

Mag Spark nipple by Warren Custom Outdoor.

heliflyer · September 3, 2014, 08:21 PM

The Jedediah Starr Trading Company has plenty of percussion caps. They have Remington No 10's, 11's, CCI and Winchester.

I bought several thousand RemingtonNo. 10's... I shared them with a few friends in my area, at my cost.

Bill

robhof · September 5, 2014, 03:42 PM

Used to get my caps at Wally world the day after B/p season, they reduce the price for clearance by usually 30%, once 50%, but sadly last year there were none on clearance and it isn't looking good for this year, so I guess I'll pay retail.

Model12Win · September 5, 2014, 04:35 PM

Yawtatrayum! Only way ta find out fer sure!

Hawg · September 6, 2014, 07:51 AM

Quote:

I have become spoiled with the new powders. I don't need a bucket of hot soapy water on standby anymore.

No, just a lot of expensive chemicals.

magickal1 · September 6, 2014, 11:06 AM

The question of caps is always an an interesting one. Each time I acquire a new "Toy" and yeah for those of you that will troll that answer guns=weapons=not toys; to which I say What Ever!

Sorry, I digress.

Where was I? Oh yeah, caps! I find my self each time trying out what cap fits that nipple right and snug. Just putting them on at home wont give the answer. You have to fire a live round or 6 to see what hangs on during the big bang. Please don't "Squeeze or pinch your caps on the nipple. If you find yourself doing this, you indeed have the wrong size. Just because its a Pietta made 1858 Remington or 1851 Navy doesn't mean it will automatically just take a Remington #11 cap and work. Your gun may only like a CCI #10 and hate the Winchester #10. ( Unless its a Colt, it just hates everything equally. )

Summary of this rambling is this, go out and get a few different brands, try them out. Essentially play with them ( The grown up term would be to experiment, again I digress

)
till you find what works for your toy and then go enjoy it. By the way keep the other caps around, they come in hand for that next new "Toy" that needs experimenting to get that right fit.

Happy shooting.
Pete

ZVP · September 8, 2014, 10:18 PM

Haven't been able to spend any money on guns cause my vehicles keep breaking!
Mercedes Tranny $$$, Rodeo tranny, F-150 tranny.
Thank goodness I had pellets and pellet rifles. Life sucks sometimes!
BPDave

jeager106 · September 9, 2014, 03:48 PM

Quote:
I have become spoiled with the new powders. I don't need a bucket of hot soapy water on standby anymore.

Heresy! Blashemy! Oh...... the shame.

But we love ya anyway and I went that route my ownself for a bit.
I even bought, not one, but TWO, inlines before I saw the grievouse errors
of my ways.
Now I own cappers & 3 handsome handbuilt Flinters.
But I digress.
I bought 2K ech of #10 & #11 caps some years ago and regret not buying
10K of each.
If we only knew then what we know now.

SycoPath · September 9, 2014, 04:40 PM

Read these posts and went to 'Jedediah Starr Trading Company' to check on the Winchester magnum caps. WOW! Listed price is $79 per 100 caps!! Forget that. Is that a misprint or for real?

B.L.E. · September 9, 2014, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Read these posts and went to 'Jedediah Starr Trading Company' to check on the Winchester magnum caps. WOW! Listed price is $79 per 100 caps!! Forget that. Is that a misprint or for real?

I think you missed this part.

Quote:

Packaged 100 per tin, ten
tin to the case. Only
sold by the case of 1000
caps.

SycoPath · September 10, 2014, 02:25 PM

Yep, I missed that part. $79 for 100 caps ain't that bad. Now you see why my signature line says what it says.

August 3, 2014, 08:42 PM	#2
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Might get a more informed answer in this forum on TFL http://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 My guess is the "Magnum" might be a little hotter to ignite all the politically correct, phoney bolony black powder substitutes on the market for people who want to make centerfires out of their muzzle loading hunting rifles. __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

August 4, 2014, 09:53 PM	#6
Hellgate Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2010 Location: Orygun Posts: 869	I believe the winchester caps are made by CCI to the same specs as CCI. The CCI#11 is "smaller" than the Remington#11. The Rem#11 is merely a shorter Rem#10 and therefore fits a fatter nipple cone. My guess is the Winch#11 will fall off under recoil unless pinched out of round. __________________ With over 15 perCUSSIN' revolvers, I've been called the Imelda Marcos of cap & ball. SASS#3302 (Life), SASS Regulator, NRA (Life), Dirty Gamey Bastards #129 Wolverton Mtn. Peacekeepers (WA), former Orygun Cowboy (Ranger, Posse from Hell)

September 3, 2014, 08:21 PM	#13
heliflyer Junior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Location: Carson, CA Posts: 13	Percussion caps The Jedediah Starr Trading Company has plenty of percussion caps. They have Remington No 10's, 11's, CCI and Winchester. I bought several thousand RemingtonNo. 10's... I shared them with a few friends in my area, at my cost. Bill __________________ God made man -- Sam Colt finished the job.

September 5, 2014, 03:42 PM	#14
robhof Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2007 Posts: 712	robhof Used to get my caps at Wally world the day after B/p season, they reduce the price for clearance by usually 30%, once 50%, but sadly last year there were none on clearance and it isn't looking good for this year, so I guess I'll pay retail.

September 8, 2014, 10:18 PM	#18
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Broken Cars and trucks! Haven't been able to spend any money on guns cause my vehicles keep breaking! Mercedes Tranny $$$, Rodeo tranny, F-150 tranny. Thank goodness I had pellets and pellet rifles. Life sucks sometimes! BPDave

August 3, 2014, 08:31 PM	#1
akinswi Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Posts: 706	no 11 percussion caps Hey everybody my local walmart has Winchester no 11 "magnum" percussion caps. I was wondering if they will work on my 1851 navy revolver i currently use Remington no 11 caps and was wondering if there was a difference thanks

August 4, 2014, 05:38 PM	#3
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 436	I use the No. 11 magnum's all the time igniting Goex FFF. No troubles....

August 4, 2014, 05:47 PM	#4
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Only way to find out? Try em'! I can guarantee you'll find yer answer then. My local Wal-Mart stocks these to, but no other brand o' caps. Some day I'll have to try em' to on MY '51 Navy!

August 4, 2014, 06:47 PM	#5
Trum4n1208 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2013 Posts: 173	I imagine they should work, they might be just a little bit too big, so you might have to pinch them a bit so they stay on the nipples. I will say, the Remingtons are better in my experience. But if it works and its what you have, go for it.

August 9, 2014, 11:14 PM	#7
akinswi Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Posts: 706	I love to find the same remington #11 caps i have but I cant find any in stock as matter fact i cant find any brand of caps online in-stock . anybody else have this issue?

August 10, 2014, 06:21 AM	#8
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 436	Same issue not finding them online but I did just score 3 tins of Remington #11 caps at Dunham sports locally. The price was ridiculous at $7.99 per tin but not much choice if I want to shoot.

August 10, 2014, 12:51 PM	#9
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	I find my caps at the sporting outlets around my area.

August 10, 2014, 01:15 PM	#10
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	They work fine on mine. It really depends on the nipples rather than the gun though I replaced my factory ones. The "magnum" is just a bit more compound. If it does anything it'll marginally shorten your lock time, especially with substitutes. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

August 11, 2014, 08:30 AM	#11
hvymax Junior member Join Date: August 7, 2014 Location: La Plata Md Posts: 57	I have become spoiled with the new powders. I don't need a bucket of hot soapy water on standby anymore.

August 11, 2014, 10:06 AM	#12
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	I hunt my deer with 45 & 54 cal Hawken rifles. If your as tired as I was. Always being on the scout for overly priced #11s. Get one of these (below) and bring that frustration over the e~lusive nipple Cap to its end. Mag Spark nipple by Warren Custom Outdoor.

September 5, 2014, 04:35 PM	#15
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Yawtatrayum! Only way ta find out fer sure!

September 6, 2014, 11:06 AM	#17
magickal1 Junior Member Join Date: June 28, 2014 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 5	The question of caps is always an an interesting one. Each time I acquire a new "Toy" and yeah for those of you that will troll that answer guns=weapons=not toys; to which I say What Ever! Sorry, I digress. Where was I? Oh yeah, caps! I find my self each time trying out what cap fits that nipple right and snug. Just putting them on at home wont give the answer. You have to fire a live round or 6 to see what hangs on during the big bang. Please don't "Squeeze or pinch your caps on the nipple. If you find yourself doing this, you indeed have the wrong size. Just because its a Pietta made 1858 Remington or 1851 Navy doesn't mean it will automatically just take a Remington #11 cap and work. Your gun may only like a CCI #10 and hate the Winchester #10. ( Unless its a Colt, it just hates everything equally. ) Summary of this rambling is this, go out and get a few different brands, try them out. Essentially play with them ( The grown up term would be to experiment, again I digress ) till you find what works for your toy and then go enjoy it. By the way keep the other caps around, they come in hand for that next new "Toy" that needs experimenting to get that right fit. Happy shooting. Pete

September 9, 2014, 03:48 PM	#19
jeager106 Junior member Join Date: November 24, 2006 Location: N.E. Oh. Posts: 527	Quote: I have become spoiled with the new powders. I don't need a bucket of hot soapy water on standby anymore. Heresy! Blashemy! Oh...... the shame. But we love ya anyway and I went that route my ownself for a bit. I even bought, not one, but TWO, inlines before I saw the grievouse errors of my ways. Now I own cappers & 3 handsome handbuilt Flinters. But I digress. I bought 2K ech of #10 & #11 caps some years ago and regret not buying 10K of each. If we only knew then what we know now.

September 9, 2014, 04:40 PM	#20
SycoPath Member Join Date: June 29, 2012 Location: Emerald City Posts: 28	Read these posts and went to 'Jedediah Starr Trading Company' to check on the Winchester magnum caps. WOW! Listed price is $79 per 100 caps!! Forget that. Is that a misprint or for real? __________________ "Sometimes it's better to be silent and only look stupid than to say something that proves it."

September 10, 2014, 02:25 PM	#22
SycoPath Member Join Date: June 29, 2012 Location: Emerald City Posts: 28	Yep, I missed that part. $79 for 100 caps ain't that bad. Now you see why my signature line says what it says. __________________ "Sometimes it's better to be silent and only look stupid than to say something that proves it."